From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in; TRUNCATED
Sent: Sun, 15 November, 2009 9:35:09 PM
Subject:
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of you all I welcome Brig RS Chhikara, as a new member into the IESM family. In addition to the membership fee he has also made a donation of Rs 4500/-. Our grateful thanks to him for his generous gesture. Thanks also to Brig Kamboj for motivating him to join in.
Our effort to run the IESM with minimum expense has not been without its downside. At times we have not been able to complete the desired tasks in a timely manner. One example is sending of the membership cards. The ESM fraternity has enormous talent in diverse welfare related fields and ample goodwill to pitch in with voluntary help. May I request the environment that those who can spare time may send their offer of help mentioning any special expertise they possess and the issues they feel comfortable with? This could be mailed to the General Secretary Gp Capt VK Gandhi on vk_gandhi@yahoo.com
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon- 122 001
Tele: 91+124-4015262, +91981...
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THE END
Monday, November 16, 2009
Thursday, November 12, 2009
An open letter to Hon’ble Members of Parliament from IESM
An open letter to Hon’ble Members of Parliament
From IESM
Dear Hon’ble Members,
The winter session of the Parliament is to begin shortly. The eyes of some 1200 million Indians will be on you to consider and debate their problems and to take momentous decisions to move this country forward. This vast population includes some two million Indian Ex Servicemen (ESM), who also will look at you all with great hope and expectation. Their population in the overall context may be small but the contribution made by them to keep India safe and united is far out of proportion to their numbers. They have been demanding ‘one rank one pension’ (OROP), which is equal pension for equal service. The latter in their context is length of service combined with the rank on retirement, which in turn defines the level of responsibility they held while in uniform. So it is ‘same rank, same service, same pension’.
OROP is not a new demand. It has been on simmer for over 25 years. It received fresh impetus after the Sixth Central Pay Commission, where absence of a defence representative led to recommendations that are detrimental to the very ethos on which the edifice of our defence forces stands. That the government has since accepted a separate pay commission for the defence forces ‘from next time on’ underscores the acceptance of their mistake.
The ESM have the resilience to survive in their paltry pension. What they are demanding is not more money per se. They are seeking justice and equity. They want all pensioners, past and present, to get the same pension. Ignoring their demand is perceived by them as if they have been merely used and discarded. They feel cheated and hurt. One can live with poverty but living with injustice is difficult for self respecting humans.
Why is the government not sanctioning OROP? Even though you would be better placed to answer this question, let me give the reason gleaned during my various interactions with those who frame and influence national policies. No one has questioned the legitimacy of the demand; “If we give it to you, other government employees may also demand it”, has been the only argument. Other government employees are not our adversaries; they are our own kith and kin. However, their conditions of service are vastly different from those of the defence forces. Apart from risks, dangers, difficulties, separations, dislocations inherent in a soldier’s life, his 24x7 work schedule for months on end is unique. The biggest difference is in the age at which they retire. An Army Sepoy – and over 85% of all personnel go home as Sepoys – is compulsorily sent on pension after 15 years of service. Being thrown out of job in mid Thirties on a meagre pension when one’s financial commitments are at a peak is a great trauma. An example would put the issue of relativity in correct perspective. Of two young men of the same age and education background, one joins the Army and the other the police (taken only for illustrative purposes). If they survive till the age of 75 years, the total difference in their earnings from salary and pension is approximately 47 Lacs in favour of the Constable. The relativity with other civilian employees would not be materially different. That is why the non-defence personnel have not pressed for OROP. If they were indeed aggrieved, they would not wait for the ESM to take lead.
Seeking parity between old and current pensions is not something unethical. If it were so, one is sure you all as Hon’ble members would not have accepted its applicability to yourselves. Nor is such a demand illegal since our Hon’ble members of the judiciary are also enjoying benefits of this provision. The soldiers, in the normal course, should get preferential treatment. Here, they are not even being treated at par with others.
Selective comparisons are never fully valid. However, since soldiers all over the world face similar fate, it may be relevant to quote excerpts from a speech President Barack Obama gave at the Veterans of Foreign Wars
Convention on August 17, 2009:
“And our nation owes these Americans -- and all who have given their lives – a profound debt of gratitude… And as always, the thoughts and prayers of every American are with those who make the ultimate sacrifice in our defence… We will fulfil our responsibility to our veterans as they return to
civilian life… Whether you've left the service in 2009 or 1949, we will fulfil our responsibility to deliver the benefits and care that you earned… These are commitments that we make to the patriots who serve – from the day they enlist to the day that they are laid to rest…”
A soldier is intrinsically shy and is conditioned to project his problems through the established channels. However, when his demand for justice is repeatedly stonewalled, his options get limited. It is not only unusual but also unfortunate that the Indian veterans have been forced to state their demand publicly. They are resolved to continue their protest in a lawful manner till they get justice.
I have had occasion to interact in person with a number of you belonging to different political parties. Interestingly, each one has expressed sympathy and support for OROP. However, after the issue is processed through the government machinery, the colour seems to change and OROP continues to remain a pending issue. This dichotomy bothers us, the ESM.
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan (Retd)
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THE END
From IESM
Dear Hon’ble Members,
The winter session of the Parliament is to begin shortly. The eyes of some 1200 million Indians will be on you to consider and debate their problems and to take momentous decisions to move this country forward. This vast population includes some two million Indian Ex Servicemen (ESM), who also will look at you all with great hope and expectation. Their population in the overall context may be small but the contribution made by them to keep India safe and united is far out of proportion to their numbers. They have been demanding ‘one rank one pension’ (OROP), which is equal pension for equal service. The latter in their context is length of service combined with the rank on retirement, which in turn defines the level of responsibility they held while in uniform. So it is ‘same rank, same service, same pension’.
OROP is not a new demand. It has been on simmer for over 25 years. It received fresh impetus after the Sixth Central Pay Commission, where absence of a defence representative led to recommendations that are detrimental to the very ethos on which the edifice of our defence forces stands. That the government has since accepted a separate pay commission for the defence forces ‘from next time on’ underscores the acceptance of their mistake.
The ESM have the resilience to survive in their paltry pension. What they are demanding is not more money per se. They are seeking justice and equity. They want all pensioners, past and present, to get the same pension. Ignoring their demand is perceived by them as if they have been merely used and discarded. They feel cheated and hurt. One can live with poverty but living with injustice is difficult for self respecting humans.
Why is the government not sanctioning OROP? Even though you would be better placed to answer this question, let me give the reason gleaned during my various interactions with those who frame and influence national policies. No one has questioned the legitimacy of the demand; “If we give it to you, other government employees may also demand it”, has been the only argument. Other government employees are not our adversaries; they are our own kith and kin. However, their conditions of service are vastly different from those of the defence forces. Apart from risks, dangers, difficulties, separations, dislocations inherent in a soldier’s life, his 24x7 work schedule for months on end is unique. The biggest difference is in the age at which they retire. An Army Sepoy – and over 85% of all personnel go home as Sepoys – is compulsorily sent on pension after 15 years of service. Being thrown out of job in mid Thirties on a meagre pension when one’s financial commitments are at a peak is a great trauma. An example would put the issue of relativity in correct perspective. Of two young men of the same age and education background, one joins the Army and the other the police (taken only for illustrative purposes). If they survive till the age of 75 years, the total difference in their earnings from salary and pension is approximately 47 Lacs in favour of the Constable. The relativity with other civilian employees would not be materially different. That is why the non-defence personnel have not pressed for OROP. If they were indeed aggrieved, they would not wait for the ESM to take lead.
Seeking parity between old and current pensions is not something unethical. If it were so, one is sure you all as Hon’ble members would not have accepted its applicability to yourselves. Nor is such a demand illegal since our Hon’ble members of the judiciary are also enjoying benefits of this provision. The soldiers, in the normal course, should get preferential treatment. Here, they are not even being treated at par with others.
Selective comparisons are never fully valid. However, since soldiers all over the world face similar fate, it may be relevant to quote excerpts from a speech President Barack Obama gave at the Veterans of Foreign Wars
Convention on August 17, 2009:
“And our nation owes these Americans -- and all who have given their lives – a profound debt of gratitude… And as always, the thoughts and prayers of every American are with those who make the ultimate sacrifice in our defence… We will fulfil our responsibility to our veterans as they return to
civilian life… Whether you've left the service in 2009 or 1949, we will fulfil our responsibility to deliver the benefits and care that you earned… These are commitments that we make to the patriots who serve – from the day they enlist to the day that they are laid to rest…”
A soldier is intrinsically shy and is conditioned to project his problems through the established channels. However, when his demand for justice is repeatedly stonewalled, his options get limited. It is not only unusual but also unfortunate that the Indian veterans have been forced to state their demand publicly. They are resolved to continue their protest in a lawful manner till they get justice.
I have had occasion to interact in person with a number of you belonging to different political parties. Interestingly, each one has expressed sympathy and support for OROP. However, after the issue is processed through the government machinery, the colour seems to change and OROP continues to remain a pending issue. This dichotomy bothers us, the ESM.
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan (Retd)
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THE END
ESM sitrep 08 Nov 2009
Dear Gen Kadyan,
To expect all/most ESM orgs in the country to come under one banner is the
`Height of Naivety`. Moreso, since many of them are affiliated to various political parties & their ESM orgs have their own `axe to grind`. We cannot & should not grudge them their `agenda` which they might be aspiring for, in the garb of ESM welfare. This is not to belittle some of the good/selfless work done by some orgs/indls for ESM.
Turbulence was expected ever since the IESM was formed because that woke up the `sleeping giant` IESL(in terms of numbers only), probably after a nugde from the `netas/babus` prior to the Lok Sabha elections. The IESL`s negative role towards OROP was expected being a Govt controlled org, though there have been some sincere efforts by some IESL members espousing the cause of ESM. This is evident from the corresp between the IESL President & Lt Gen SK Bahri. What is
surprising is the perceived non-involvement of most IESL `Top Brass`(ex Chiefs/
Army Cdrs/Lt Gens/Equivalents in IN/AF). How come their voices/views(if they have any) are not publicised/posted on the net or have they left it to the IESL President to conduct its business the way he likes. Why are they shirking to head the IESL as you have done so honourably to head the IESM.
Though the issue of OROP has been going on for the last 25 years, it is common
knowledge that it was the IESM which brought it to the centre stage by its peaceful agenda at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi and depositing of hard earned medals with the President. This obviously had the desired effect on the Nation, otherwise why did the IESL & some stooge orgs issue a `fatwa` against it so late(again it seems at the instance of the `netas/babus`.
Disability Pension - Even on an important issue of equitable disability pension the Govt is not bothered/procrastinating and has left the disabled soldiers to fight their `battles` in Courts(all at the cost of ESMs pension). Even after the Courts have ruled in favour of the disabled soldiers, frivolous SLPs/counter petitions are filed by the Govt just to delay the issue. Are the PM/RM/FM blind to these glaring anomalies or are they content with the delaying tactics of the `babus` to antagonise the ESM. What an ungrateful Congress Govt that sits on the sacrifices/lives/blood/sweat/toil of the soldiers. A lot was expected from the PM & RM - alas they have failed the Armed Forces. Even a war-disabled ex-VCOAS wrote to the RM but no response. Compare this with what the IIT Alumini achieved in a short time. The PM/RM/FM should be ashamed of themselves. Look how other nations treat their veterans/soldiers. The attitude of the Govt should be exposed nationally/internationally on the internet. Don`t expect much from the media, as they too have their compulsions. Expose the `babus` as the biggest culprits. Take the help of like-minded civil indls/orgs.
26/11 & Vijay Diwas - The disaster of 26/11 hit a chord with the people of Mumbai. They were all for the Armed Forces & the NSG(read Army). The first anniversary should be utilised effectively to convey our Agenda/Grievances & expose the misgivings of the `netas/babus` with specific ref to the Cabinet Secy`s
Anomalies report & the lies therein. Vijay Diwas should again be utilised to promote our causes The return of medals should be done with greater vigour & on a grander scale with the entire Indian/foreign media incl BBC/CNN/Chinese/Pak/Japanese/German/French/etc. Let them see how the " finest soldiers in the world" are treated by the Govt of India. In fact foreign countries give more honour to Indian soldiers. France honoured the Indian Armed Forces by inviting them to lead their ID parade. The planning for 26/11 & Vijay Diwas should
start imdt as there is very little time. Set targets for the State/Distt coordinators to collect ESM/medals.
Role of ex-Chiefs/Army Cdrs/Lt Gens/Equivalents - They should seek an audience collectively with the PM & RM and give a memorandum on the lines of
Lt Gen Harwant Singh`s letter in full media glare. Indl letters by them to PM/RM have had no effect. These senior Veterans have nothing to lose. In fact, they owe it to their subordinates who were mainly responsible for what they achieved. If reqd even MPs/MLAs should be coopted. The Armed Forces cannot be taken for a ride by `babus`. Look what the ex-CNS achieved, that too while in the Chair. He was true to the cause of soldiers. The other serving seniors need to take a cue from him.
It is now or never - otherwise the Courts will remain the last option. They are generally positive to ESM complaints regarding pay & allowances. I have already got a reprieve from the Punjab & Haryana High Court in my favour regarding bunching of my disability pension.
JUSTICE FOR DEFENCE FORCES AT ALL COSTS - WE WILL WIN AS ALWAYS !!!
JAI HIND.
Best regards,
Brig SS Jaswal, Veteran,
IESM, Panchkula.
- On Sun, 8/11/09, Kamboj Chander wrote:
From: Kamboj Chander kamboj@itintellectuals.com
Subject: ESM SITREP 08 NOV 09 - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 759/2009 - 08 NOV 09 (H to Z)
To:
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 11:37 PM
Brigadier C. S. Kamboj, VSM., VETERAN,
Email - kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
"REPORT MY SIGNAL - BLOG" - http://reportmysignal.blogspot.com/
IESM UPDATES AND REGISTRATION - http://www.iesm.org/
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in; TRUNCATED
Sent: Sun, 8 November, 2009 8:21:44 PM
Subject: ESM sitrep 08 Nov evening
Dear Colleagues,
Yet another attempt at cobbling a joint approach, – even though it was for a limited purpose of writing a combined letter - has run into open turbulence. This is most unfortunate. The target audience that we intended to influence through this effort could not be unaware of the fission.
I will reiterate what I had said a few weeks ago through this very medium. Based on the experience of many failed attempts at fostering unity, we need to get reconciled to the fact that in the foreseeable future unity among ESM is a mere mirage. There must be several factors, both institutional and individual, which are stymieing the repeated attempts made in this direction. Therefore, while there is no harm keeping our efforts and hopes alive, we need to accept the reality and not lament over the fact.
One positive in the ESM environment is that we all have a common goal – of ESM welfare in general and OROP in particular. Only the approaches are different. We should use this fact to make our efforts seem like a multi-pronged thrust to attain our common objective.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM,
Chairman IESM
To expect all/most ESM orgs in the country to come under one banner is the
`Height of Naivety`. Moreso, since many of them are affiliated to various political parties & their ESM orgs have their own `axe to grind`. We cannot & should not grudge them their `agenda` which they might be aspiring for, in the garb of ESM welfare. This is not to belittle some of the good/selfless work done by some orgs/indls for ESM.
Turbulence was expected ever since the IESM was formed because that woke up the `sleeping giant` IESL(in terms of numbers only), probably after a nugde from the `netas/babus` prior to the Lok Sabha elections. The IESL`s negative role towards OROP was expected being a Govt controlled org, though there have been some sincere efforts by some IESL members espousing the cause of ESM. This is evident from the corresp between the IESL President & Lt Gen SK Bahri. What is
surprising is the perceived non-involvement of most IESL `Top Brass`(ex Chiefs/
Army Cdrs/Lt Gens/Equivalents in IN/AF). How come their voices/views(if they have any) are not publicised/posted on the net or have they left it to the IESL President to conduct its business the way he likes. Why are they shirking to head the IESL as you have done so honourably to head the IESM.
Though the issue of OROP has been going on for the last 25 years, it is common
knowledge that it was the IESM which brought it to the centre stage by its peaceful agenda at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi and depositing of hard earned medals with the President. This obviously had the desired effect on the Nation, otherwise why did the IESL & some stooge orgs issue a `fatwa` against it so late(again it seems at the instance of the `netas/babus`.
Disability Pension - Even on an important issue of equitable disability pension the Govt is not bothered/procrastinating and has left the disabled soldiers to fight their `battles` in Courts(all at the cost of ESMs pension). Even after the Courts have ruled in favour of the disabled soldiers, frivolous SLPs/counter petitions are filed by the Govt just to delay the issue. Are the PM/RM/FM blind to these glaring anomalies or are they content with the delaying tactics of the `babus` to antagonise the ESM. What an ungrateful Congress Govt that sits on the sacrifices/lives/blood/sweat/toil of the soldiers. A lot was expected from the PM & RM - alas they have failed the Armed Forces. Even a war-disabled ex-VCOAS wrote to the RM but no response. Compare this with what the IIT Alumini achieved in a short time. The PM/RM/FM should be ashamed of themselves. Look how other nations treat their veterans/soldiers. The attitude of the Govt should be exposed nationally/internationally on the internet. Don`t expect much from the media, as they too have their compulsions. Expose the `babus` as the biggest culprits. Take the help of like-minded civil indls/orgs.
26/11 & Vijay Diwas - The disaster of 26/11 hit a chord with the people of Mumbai. They were all for the Armed Forces & the NSG(read Army). The first anniversary should be utilised effectively to convey our Agenda/Grievances & expose the misgivings of the `netas/babus` with specific ref to the Cabinet Secy`s
Anomalies report & the lies therein. Vijay Diwas should again be utilised to promote our causes The return of medals should be done with greater vigour & on a grander scale with the entire Indian/foreign media incl BBC/CNN/Chinese/Pak/Japanese/German/French/etc. Let them see how the " finest soldiers in the world" are treated by the Govt of India. In fact foreign countries give more honour to Indian soldiers. France honoured the Indian Armed Forces by inviting them to lead their ID parade. The planning for 26/11 & Vijay Diwas should
start imdt as there is very little time. Set targets for the State/Distt coordinators to collect ESM/medals.
Role of ex-Chiefs/Army Cdrs/Lt Gens/Equivalents - They should seek an audience collectively with the PM & RM and give a memorandum on the lines of
Lt Gen Harwant Singh`s letter in full media glare. Indl letters by them to PM/RM have had no effect. These senior Veterans have nothing to lose. In fact, they owe it to their subordinates who were mainly responsible for what they achieved. If reqd even MPs/MLAs should be coopted. The Armed Forces cannot be taken for a ride by `babus`. Look what the ex-CNS achieved, that too while in the Chair. He was true to the cause of soldiers. The other serving seniors need to take a cue from him.
It is now or never - otherwise the Courts will remain the last option. They are generally positive to ESM complaints regarding pay & allowances. I have already got a reprieve from the Punjab & Haryana High Court in my favour regarding bunching of my disability pension.
JUSTICE FOR DEFENCE FORCES AT ALL COSTS - WE WILL WIN AS ALWAYS !!!
JAI HIND.
Best regards,
Brig SS Jaswal, Veteran,
IESM, Panchkula.
- On Sun, 8/11/09, Kamboj Chander
From: Kamboj Chander kamboj@itintellectuals.com
Subject: ESM SITREP 08 NOV 09 - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 759/2009 - 08 NOV 09 (H to Z)
To:
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 11:37 PM
Brigadier C. S. Kamboj, VSM., VETERAN,
Email - kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
"REPORT MY SIGNAL - BLOG" - http://reportmysignal.blogspot.com/
IESM UPDATES AND REGISTRATION - http://www.iesm.org/
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in; TRUNCATED
Sent: Sun, 8 November, 2009 8:21:44 PM
Subject: ESM sitrep 08 Nov evening
Dear Colleagues,
Yet another attempt at cobbling a joint approach, – even though it was for a limited purpose of writing a combined letter - has run into open turbulence. This is most unfortunate. The target audience that we intended to influence through this effort could not be unaware of the fission.
I will reiterate what I had said a few weeks ago through this very medium. Based on the experience of many failed attempts at fostering unity, we need to get reconciled to the fact that in the foreseeable future unity among ESM is a mere mirage. There must be several factors, both institutional and individual, which are stymieing the repeated attempts made in this direction. Therefore, while there is no harm keeping our efforts and hopes alive, we need to accept the reality and not lament over the fact.
One positive in the ESM environment is that we all have a common goal – of ESM welfare in general and OROP in particular. Only the approaches are different. We should use this fact to make our efforts seem like a multi-pronged thrust to attain our common objective.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM,
Chairman IESM
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
Mail by Brig Kamboj...RMS
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
For success of the current All India Movement by ESM to get -
Justice for Defence Services,
it is important that ESM organisations and we All ESM stand shoulder to shoulder.
There are already large numbers of existing ESM organisations and each one of them is doing its utmost to get justice for Defence Services of India.
If any one of you is not a member of an ESM organisation, do join one of the existing ESM organisations and give your whole-hearted support to the current movement for Justice for Defence Services.
For early and assured success of our mission – Justice for Defence Services, what is required is that all the existing ESM organisations must work in a synergetic manner. All ESM organisations may continue to follow their own philosophy and methods, but nothing should be said or done which implies to adversely criticising other ESM organisations or any individual ESM.
Any representation to be sent in writing to the Government of India should preferably go as a joint memorandum by All ESM Organisations.
We must avoid creating new ESM organisations, unless it is being created for a specific problem to be resolved; like the Retired Defence Officers Association, which has been created with the specific purpose to resolve the V CPC anomaly pertaining to rank pay of officers of Defence Services.
We must appreciate that if someone is still trying to create a new ESM organisation to represent the common existing problems of all ESM, it is being done to achieve ulterior motives of the originators of such organisations – especially if the creators of such organisation are going on a vilification campaign of any of the existing ESM organisation. You should come down with a heavy hand on such misguided persons and ensure they do not succeed in their ulterior motives at the cost of all the ESM of India.
An email received from IESM Steering Committee is reproduced below for your consideration.
If you agree with the contents of this email - do give wide publicity to its contents.
UNITED WE ARE SURE TO WIN
DIVIDED WE WILL FALL.
CHOICE IS YOURS.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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From: Vinod Gandhi vk_gandhi@yahoo.com
To: DELETED
Sent: Sat, 7 November, 2009 1:42:45 PM
Subject: IESM; WELFARE OF EX-SERVICEMEN
Dear Veterans
Of late, few veterans have been indulging in vilification campaign against IESM. They are indulging in this vilification campaign to serve their narrow interest. They are inflicting immense damage to the clean image of ex-servicemen. It is evident from their mails that they are either not aware of the work done by IESM and its decision making procedures or intentionally indulging into vilification campaign with a specific design in their mind. In order to remove the doubts being created by these misguided Veterans about IESM, the following is submitted for information of all ESM: -
1. IESM is fully committed to the welfare of ex-servicemen and will continue to do so against all odds.
2. IESM has been successful in bringing the demand of OROP to the centre stage of the Government and will continue to pursue the case till Government approves the OROP for all ex-servicemen.
3. IESM does not support any particular political outfit and will support only those who will help IESM in getting OROP for all ex-servicemen.
4. AGM for the IESM is being planned in mid December 09.
5. IESM accounts have been audited by the CA and the balance sheet is ready. The balance sheet will be put up to AGM for approval. The approved balance sheet will be released for all to study and will be uploaded to IESM website.
6. Income tax return for the year 2008-09 has been filed.
7. IESM has a system of internal audit at regular intervals and all expenditure is vetted by steering committee.
8. IESM has received income tax exemption for the donations under section 80G of income tax. As per this clause, 50% of all donations are exempt from income tax; required receipts for claiming the IT relief is being issued to donors.
9. Steering Committee of the IESM takes decisions unanimously and in case of any differences, the issue is resolved peacefully and democratically by vote.
10. Core Group of IESM is a larger body. All State conveners and many JCOs, NCOs or ORs are member of core group. Core group meeting is held every quarter where JCOs and other ranks take active part in deliberations.
11. As per MOA of the IESM, the present team of office bearers has been elected for a period of two years. On completion of two years in Dec 2010, a new team of office bearers will be elected.
12. IESM is committed to peaceful demonstrations and will never support any disruptive kind of protest.
13. IESM has started three divisions to look after the interest of ex-servicemen. These are –
Pension division to help ex-servicemen to sort out their pension related problems.
ECHS division to improve the working of ECHS with a long term perspective that benefit of ECHS facility is available to all ex-servicemen even in remotest corners of India.
CSD division to help spread its reach and benefits even to ex-servicemen residing in villages by opening CSD counters or providing mobile counter facility.
IESM is also taking up other important demands like –
Job guarantee till 60 yrs of age for all ex-servicemen.
Assured alternate career on retirement such as parallel absorption in other organisations on release from service.
Ex-servicemen commission for welfare of all ex-servicemen to be manned by only ex-servicemen.
Inclusion of ex-servicemen in the committees set up to
consider issues pertaining to ex-servicemen.
Anomalies related to disability pension.
15. Other important issues affecting the welfare of ESM are also under planning and will also be looked into when necessary.
IESM requests ex-servicemen not to get misled by the vilification campaign by a few misguided and self-centered veterans.
For the success of the Mission – Justice for Defence Services, ALL ESM of THREE Services and All ESM organisations must stand shoulder to shoulder.
All ESM Organisations are doing their utmost for the benefit of ESM but, care has to be taken that the actions by ESM organisations are synergetic and complement each other.
Public criticism of any ESM organisation or any individual ESM must be avoided.
There are always ways and means of resolving differences in a peaceful and democratic manner.
IESM wishes all ex-servicemen organisations a grand success in pursuing their charter for the welfare of ex-servicemen.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25, NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01202519440, Mobile 09810541222
Pls see IESM latest NEWS on http://www.iesm. org
IF YOU SEE SOMEONE WITHOUT A SMILE GIVE HIM ONE OF YOURS.
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THE END
Jai Hind.
For success of the current All India Movement by ESM to get -
Justice for Defence Services,
it is important that ESM organisations and we All ESM stand shoulder to shoulder.
There are already large numbers of existing ESM organisations and each one of them is doing its utmost to get justice for Defence Services of India.
If any one of you is not a member of an ESM organisation, do join one of the existing ESM organisations and give your whole-hearted support to the current movement for Justice for Defence Services.
For early and assured success of our mission – Justice for Defence Services, what is required is that all the existing ESM organisations must work in a synergetic manner. All ESM organisations may continue to follow their own philosophy and methods, but nothing should be said or done which implies to adversely criticising other ESM organisations or any individual ESM.
Any representation to be sent in writing to the Government of India should preferably go as a joint memorandum by All ESM Organisations.
We must avoid creating new ESM organisations, unless it is being created for a specific problem to be resolved; like the Retired Defence Officers Association, which has been created with the specific purpose to resolve the V CPC anomaly pertaining to rank pay of officers of Defence Services.
We must appreciate that if someone is still trying to create a new ESM organisation to represent the common existing problems of all ESM, it is being done to achieve ulterior motives of the originators of such organisations – especially if the creators of such organisation are going on a vilification campaign of any of the existing ESM organisation. You should come down with a heavy hand on such misguided persons and ensure they do not succeed in their ulterior motives at the cost of all the ESM of India.
An email received from IESM Steering Committee is reproduced below for your consideration.
If you agree with the contents of this email - do give wide publicity to its contents.
UNITED WE ARE SURE TO WIN
DIVIDED WE WILL FALL.
CHOICE IS YOURS.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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From: Vinod Gandhi vk_gandhi@yahoo.com
To: DELETED
Sent: Sat, 7 November, 2009 1:42:45 PM
Subject: IESM; WELFARE OF EX-SERVICEMEN
Dear Veterans
Of late, few veterans have been indulging in vilification campaign against IESM. They are indulging in this vilification campaign to serve their narrow interest. They are inflicting immense damage to the clean image of ex-servicemen. It is evident from their mails that they are either not aware of the work done by IESM and its decision making procedures or intentionally indulging into vilification campaign with a specific design in their mind. In order to remove the doubts being created by these misguided Veterans about IESM, the following is submitted for information of all ESM: -
1. IESM is fully committed to the welfare of ex-servicemen and will continue to do so against all odds.
2. IESM has been successful in bringing the demand of OROP to the centre stage of the Government and will continue to pursue the case till Government approves the OROP for all ex-servicemen.
3. IESM does not support any particular political outfit and will support only those who will help IESM in getting OROP for all ex-servicemen.
4. AGM for the IESM is being planned in mid December 09.
5. IESM accounts have been audited by the CA and the balance sheet is ready. The balance sheet will be put up to AGM for approval. The approved balance sheet will be released for all to study and will be uploaded to IESM website.
6. Income tax return for the year 2008-09 has been filed.
7. IESM has a system of internal audit at regular intervals and all expenditure is vetted by steering committee.
8. IESM has received income tax exemption for the donations under section 80G of income tax. As per this clause, 50% of all donations are exempt from income tax; required receipts for claiming the IT relief is being issued to donors.
9. Steering Committee of the IESM takes decisions unanimously and in case of any differences, the issue is resolved peacefully and democratically by vote.
10. Core Group of IESM is a larger body. All State conveners and many JCOs, NCOs or ORs are member of core group. Core group meeting is held every quarter where JCOs and other ranks take active part in deliberations.
11. As per MOA of the IESM, the present team of office bearers has been elected for a period of two years. On completion of two years in Dec 2010, a new team of office bearers will be elected.
12. IESM is committed to peaceful demonstrations and will never support any disruptive kind of protest.
13. IESM has started three divisions to look after the interest of ex-servicemen. These are –
Pension division to help ex-servicemen to sort out their pension related problems.
ECHS division to improve the working of ECHS with a long term perspective that benefit of ECHS facility is available to all ex-servicemen even in remotest corners of India.
CSD division to help spread its reach and benefits even to ex-servicemen residing in villages by opening CSD counters or providing mobile counter facility.
IESM is also taking up other important demands like –
Job guarantee till 60 yrs of age for all ex-servicemen.
Assured alternate career on retirement such as parallel absorption in other organisations on release from service.
Ex-servicemen commission for welfare of all ex-servicemen to be manned by only ex-servicemen.
Inclusion of ex-servicemen in the committees set up to
consider issues pertaining to ex-servicemen.
Anomalies related to disability pension.
15. Other important issues affecting the welfare of ESM are also under planning and will also be looked into when necessary.
IESM requests ex-servicemen not to get misled by the vilification campaign by a few misguided and self-centered veterans.
For the success of the Mission – Justice for Defence Services, ALL ESM of THREE Services and All ESM organisations must stand shoulder to shoulder.
All ESM Organisations are doing their utmost for the benefit of ESM but, care has to be taken that the actions by ESM organisations are synergetic and complement each other.
Public criticism of any ESM organisation or any individual ESM must be avoided.
There are always ways and means of resolving differences in a peaceful and democratic manner.
IESM wishes all ex-servicemen organisations a grand success in pursuing their charter for the welfare of ex-servicemen.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25, NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01202519440, Mobile 09810541222
Pls see IESM latest NEWS on http://www.iesm. org
IF YOU SEE SOMEONE WITHOUT A SMILE GIVE HIM ONE OF YOURS.
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THE END
IESM Accounts for the FY 2008-2009 by Maj Gen P Renjen
From: prenjen@hotmail.com
To: militaryveterans@yahoogroups.com; indianveterans@yahoogroups.com; quarter_centurians@yahoogroups.co.uk; wegunners@yahoogroups.com; coregpiesm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: IESM ACCOUNTS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:11:41 +0000
Dear IESM Members and other Veteran Friends,
IESM accounts for the FY 2008-09 have been audited as per regulations by a CA and the Income Tax Return has been accordingly filed. The accounts - balance sheet etc - will be presented to the members at the forthcoming AGM. Once approved, these will be put up on the web site for information of all members.
Some relevant rules on expenditure, as per Govt regulations on the subject,
are; -
1. Receipts against "Life Membership Fee" are to be put aside in a "Corpus" Fund and cannot be used for routine expenses. The purpose of the Corpus is to provide strength to the Organisation. However, we IESM may use any interest earned on the Corpus investments like Fixed deposits etc. This restriction is not applicable for annual subscriptions, which may be spent at will. IESM does not collect any annual subscriptions nor is there any proposal to do so in future.
2. Receipts against Donations can be spent for entitled expenses even though, in the first instance, 15% of these receipts are also required to be deposited in the "Corpus" and only 85% may be spent. If inescapable, however, this 15% can also be used for expenses. The unspent balance of the Donations is treated as income and taxed unless the Organisation obtains exemption from the requirement of spending it all within the year from the IT Deptt under sec 12A; the exemption allows that the receipts from donations may be spent in 5 yrs instead. Unspent amount thereafter will however be taxed. As already informed to all, IESM has obtained the required exemption.
3. While receipts from donations were generally satisfactory during the last financial year (FY 2008-09), these have virtually dried up in the current financial year. As a result, expenses till date exceed receipts for the year (FY 2009-10) and IESM is required to dip in to last year's balances of donations. This cannot go on; all members of IESM have to increase efforts to mobilise donations from ESM and civilians including Corporates. Convenors at all levels also need to keep this in mind when planning expenses, which they expect to be reimbursed by the HQ IESM. However, it must be added that IESM shall reimburse all justified and inescapable expenses. It is also worth noting that from 01 April, 2009 all donations received by IESM are eligible for IT exemption under sec 80G. Required receipt to claim the exemption will be issued by IESM.
God Bless IESM and God bless you,
Maj Gen (Retd) PK Renjen, AVSM
91-9810044542 (cell),
0124-6523963 (home)
To: militaryveterans@yahoogroups.com; indianveterans@yahoogroups.com; quarter_centurians@yahoogroups.co.uk; wegunners@yahoogroups.com; coregpiesm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: IESM ACCOUNTS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:11:41 +0000
Dear IESM Members and other Veteran Friends,
IESM accounts for the FY 2008-09 have been audited as per regulations by a CA and the Income Tax Return has been accordingly filed. The accounts - balance sheet etc - will be presented to the members at the forthcoming AGM. Once approved, these will be put up on the web site for information of all members.
Some relevant rules on expenditure, as per Govt regulations on the subject,
are; -
1. Receipts against "Life Membership Fee" are to be put aside in a "Corpus" Fund and cannot be used for routine expenses. The purpose of the Corpus is to provide strength to the Organisation. However, we IESM may use any interest earned on the Corpus investments like Fixed deposits etc. This restriction is not applicable for annual subscriptions, which may be spent at will. IESM does not collect any annual subscriptions nor is there any proposal to do so in future.
2. Receipts against Donations can be spent for entitled expenses even though, in the first instance, 15% of these receipts are also required to be deposited in the "Corpus" and only 85% may be spent. If inescapable, however, this 15% can also be used for expenses. The unspent balance of the Donations is treated as income and taxed unless the Organisation obtains exemption from the requirement of spending it all within the year from the IT Deptt under sec 12A; the exemption allows that the receipts from donations may be spent in 5 yrs instead. Unspent amount thereafter will however be taxed. As already informed to all, IESM has obtained the required exemption.
3. While receipts from donations were generally satisfactory during the last financial year (FY 2008-09), these have virtually dried up in the current financial year. As a result, expenses till date exceed receipts for the year (FY 2009-10) and IESM is required to dip in to last year's balances of donations. This cannot go on; all members of IESM have to increase efforts to mobilise donations from ESM and civilians including Corporates. Convenors at all levels also need to keep this in mind when planning expenses, which they expect to be reimbursed by the HQ IESM. However, it must be added that IESM shall reimburse all justified and inescapable expenses. It is also worth noting that from 01 April, 2009 all donations received by IESM are eligible for IT exemption under sec 80G. Required receipt to claim the exemption will be issued by IESM.
God Bless IESM and God bless you,
Maj Gen (Retd) PK Renjen, AVSM
91-9810044542 (cell),
0124-6523963 (home)
Thursday, November 5, 2009
Sitrep 04 Nov 2009
Dear Colleagues,
In the sitrep dated 29 Oct 2009, I had given the expected enhancement in pension of pre 10.10.1997 PBOR. For ease of comparison and to gauge the extent of shortfall in OROP, I am adding another column below showing the post 1.1.2006 pensions.
Rank (service) Likely new pension Post 1.1.2006
Sep (19) Rs 5,800/- Rs 7,000/-
Naik (24) Rs 6,500/- Rs 7,345/-
Hav (26) Rs 6,500/- Rs 8,100/-
Nb Sub (28) Rs 10,675/- Rs 10,675/-
Sub (28) Rs 11,970/- Rs 11,970/-
Sub Maj (28) Rs 12,285/- Rs 12,285/-
One can see the glaring difference for Sepoy to Hav ranks
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
In the sitrep dated 29 Oct 2009, I had given the expected enhancement in pension of pre 10.10.1997 PBOR. For ease of comparison and to gauge the extent of shortfall in OROP, I am adding another column below showing the post 1.1.2006 pensions.
Rank (service) Likely new pension Post 1.1.2006
Sep (19) Rs 5,800/- Rs 7,000/-
Naik (24) Rs 6,500/- Rs 7,345/-
Hav (26) Rs 6,500/- Rs 8,100/-
Nb Sub (28) Rs 10,675/- Rs 10,675/-
Sub (28) Rs 11,970/- Rs 11,970/-
Sub Maj (28) Rs 12,285/- Rs 12,285/-
One can see the glaring difference for Sepoy to Hav ranks
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Monday, November 2, 2009
SCPC: Maj Gens- Pre/ Post- 2006 Pension Disparity
My Dear Brig Kamboj,
Letter addressed to all veteran Maj Gens/AVMs/Rear Admirals is given as link below.
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Maj Gens' Case Pre & Post 2006 Pension Disparity
Dear Veterans,
1. AVM JK Pathania, a veteran who is also a practising Advocate of Delhi High Court and Supreme Court has taken an initiative to file a court case on behalf of Maj Gens/AVMs/Rear Admirals to ask for removal of disparity in Pension of Pre and Post 2006 retirees.
2. He had issued a legal notice to the Defence Secretary and the three Chiefs on 13 Aug 2009 (copy enclosed).While no reply has been received from the Defence Secretary, he has received reply from Lt Gen V K Chaturvedi, AVSM, SM on behalf of Chairman COSC dated 14 Sep 2009 (copy linked below). He had also sought information under the RTI from PIO, Min of Def vide RTI application dated 13 Aug 09 (copy linked below). The information is yet to be received.
3. AVM JK Pathania has proposed to file the joint case of a group of Maj Gens/ AVMs/ Rear Admirals in High Court/ Supreme Court. For proper preparation of case, he needs to assess the number of veterans who are willing to be part of the group. All veterans of ranks of Maj Gen/ AVM/ Rear Admiral who want to be part of the group may send their particulars to AVM Pathania with copy to me at the earliest.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh,
Letter addressed to all veteran Maj Gens/AVMs/Rear Admirals is given as link below.
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Maj Gens' Case Pre & Post 2006 Pension Disparity
Dear Veterans,
1. AVM JK Pathania, a veteran who is also a practising Advocate of Delhi High Court and Supreme Court has taken an initiative to file a court case on behalf of Maj Gens/AVMs/Rear Admirals to ask for removal of disparity in Pension of Pre and Post 2006 retirees.
2. He had issued a legal notice to the Defence Secretary and the three Chiefs on 13 Aug 2009 (copy enclosed).While no reply has been received from the Defence Secretary, he has received reply from Lt Gen V K Chaturvedi, AVSM, SM on behalf of Chairman COSC dated 14 Sep 2009 (copy linked below). He had also sought information under the RTI from PIO, Min of Def vide RTI application dated 13 Aug 09 (copy linked below). The information is yet to be received.
3. AVM JK Pathania has proposed to file the joint case of a group of Maj Gens/ AVMs/ Rear Admirals in High Court/ Supreme Court. For proper preparation of case, he needs to assess the number of veterans who are willing to be part of the group. All veterans of ranks of Maj Gen/ AVM/ Rear Admiral who want to be part of the group may send their particulars to AVM Pathania with copy to me at the earliest.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh,
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