PROGRAM FOR CORE GP MEETINGON 5 MARCH 11 AT AVCC NOIDA
1000 to 1030h Tea for the participants.
1030 to 1035h Welcome by Gen Sec
1035 to 1045h Financial Round up by the Treasurer.
1045 to 1100h Operational round up by the Chairman.
1100 to 1300h Discussion on agenda points.
1300 to 1345h Lunch and disbursement of travel claims
1345 to 1430h Discussion on agenda points
1430 to 1445h Tea.
1445 to 1525h Discussion on agenda points.
1525 to 1530h Vote of thanks by Gen Sec.AGENDA POINTS FOR CORE GROUP MEETING ON 5 MARCH 11 AT AVCC NOIDA
1. Filing a class suit for rank pay for all or joining with Major Dhanapalan.
2. Filing a class suit for Majors pension.
3. Regularizing bank electronic transfer facility for donations.
4. List of conveners.
5. Planning for rally on 6 March 11.
6. Preparation of case for filing of court case for Mil Pay and details to be given to lawyer Mr Nadesh Gupta.
7. IESM should bear the stay expenditure of Gov Body members as and when they visit delhi for meetings. Policy decision required for yes or no and if yes then to limit it to some modest expenditure.
8. Reimbursement of expenses and petty cash with Conveners.
9. Website.
Comments: The web site has had no updating since the last meeting in Delhi except I understand some girl was appointed for the purpose.
10. Automatic Members ship to Widows of existing members.
Comment:
11. Associate Members
Comments: We have not yet put all our associate members nominal roll and their individual membership numbers on the site.
12. Pension Cell Head.
A final decision is awaited.
13. Court Case; To discuss whether IESM should file a caveat in respect of all three cases in the court currently (Maj/LT Col/Col and Brig). So that benefit of the verdict is available to all. If filing of caveat is agreed to then to form a team of some legal experts to discuss way and means of doing the same.
14. To file a writ petition, in the SC, pleading for the speedy implementation of the various pro ESM Judgements awarded by various AFTs & other courts.
15. Constitution of a Legal Division, with representation in more than one town. Delhi, Chandigarh and Pune sound good.
16. Getting into alliances/ co-partnering other litigants on a case by case basis.
17. Constitution of a Legal Division, with representation in more than one town. Delhi, Chandigarh and Pune sound good.
18. Getting into alliances/ co-partnering other litigants on a case by case basis.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222
Wednesday, March 2, 2011
IESM Rally on 27 Feb 2011
From: satbir singh [mailto:satbirsm@yahoo.com]
Sent: 28 February 2011 16:05
To: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: Fw: IESM Rally on 27 Feb 2011
Dear Veterans
1. An IESM Rally was held at Damdama Jheel in Sohna district of Haryana on 27 Feb 2011.
2. Events covered by the Media are enclosed herewith.
With Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chariman, IESM
Sent: 28 February 2011 16:05
To: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: Fw: IESM Rally on 27 Feb 2011
Dear Veterans
1. An IESM Rally was held at Damdama Jheel in Sohna district of Haryana on 27 Feb 2011.
2. Events covered by the Media are enclosed herewith.
With Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chariman, IESM
Monday, February 21, 2011
RAlly at Hisar..20 Feb 2011
Subject: ESM sitrep 20 Feb evening
Dear Colleagues,
An IESM rally was held at Hisar today. It was organised by Sub Hari Singh and Hony Capt Chander Singh who had put in tremendous amount of hard work over the last few weeks. It was a gathering of over 200 ESM and Service families. Gen Adiya Jaini, Colonel Goyal and self attended from Delhi. 30 new members joined IESM during the event. The rain that started midway during the proceedings failed to dampen the enthusiasm of the participants.
Preparations for the 6 March rally at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi are on track. We are extremely grateful to all the 61 contributors (IESM members, other ESM and civilians) for their generosity in sending money for the event. Our special gratitude to Brig Chander Kamboj for playing a pivotal role in this.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Dear Colleagues,
An IESM rally was held at Hisar today. It was organised by Sub Hari Singh and Hony Capt Chander Singh who had put in tremendous amount of hard work over the last few weeks. It was a gathering of over 200 ESM and Service families. Gen Adiya Jaini, Colonel Goyal and self attended from Delhi. 30 new members joined IESM during the event. The rain that started midway during the proceedings failed to dampen the enthusiasm of the participants.
Preparations for the 6 March rally at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi are on track. We are extremely grateful to all the 61 contributors (IESM members, other ESM and civilians) for their generosity in sending money for the event. Our special gratitude to Brig Chander Kamboj for playing a pivotal role in this.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Tuesday, February 15, 2011
Sitrep 12 Feb 2011
Dear Colleagues,
The ESM have numerous problems that merit urgent attention by the authorities. Various sub groups within the ESM fraternity want the IESM to pursue their specific cases, including through courts. The officer-centric problems find space on the net and hence are perceived to acquire a louder signature. But there are equally weighty problems with JCOs and Other Ranks that keep getting projected over telephone and during rallies. (And of course one must not forget the largest and the most needy sub group – the widows who have been denied the pension increase given to others). All such problems are admittedly genuine. While the IESM does provide support to the extent possible, it is not practicable for the IESM as an organization to pursue every case. Individual sub groups must continue doing so as heretofore. We need to remind ourselves that:
1. While starting the Movement we had selected only those demands that affect the entire, or almost the entire ESM population.
2. The demands had been limited to the very few substantial ones. Including too many demands would have inevitably led to mixing the major and not-so-crucial together. It is empirically seen that the govt invariably accepts the minor ones and then expects bargaining on the major ones.
3. By seeking a subsidiary concession – such as taking up the issue of resolving VI Pay Commission anomalies as has been suggested – would be misconstrued as our lowering the aim, our intentions and protestations to the contrary notwithstanding.
While we will continue pursuing the welfare activities like the pension and ECHS problems, in the main we need to keep our sights trained on OROP.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
The ESM have numerous problems that merit urgent attention by the authorities. Various sub groups within the ESM fraternity want the IESM to pursue their specific cases, including through courts. The officer-centric problems find space on the net and hence are perceived to acquire a louder signature. But there are equally weighty problems with JCOs and Other Ranks that keep getting projected over telephone and during rallies. (And of course one must not forget the largest and the most needy sub group – the widows who have been denied the pension increase given to others). All such problems are admittedly genuine. While the IESM does provide support to the extent possible, it is not practicable for the IESM as an organization to pursue every case. Individual sub groups must continue doing so as heretofore. We need to remind ourselves that:
1. While starting the Movement we had selected only those demands that affect the entire, or almost the entire ESM population.
2. The demands had been limited to the very few substantial ones. Including too many demands would have inevitably led to mixing the major and not-so-crucial together. It is empirically seen that the govt invariably accepts the minor ones and then expects bargaining on the major ones.
3. By seeking a subsidiary concession – such as taking up the issue of resolving VI Pay Commission anomalies as has been suggested – would be misconstrued as our lowering the aim, our intentions and protestations to the contrary notwithstanding.
While we will continue pursuing the welfare activities like the pension and ECHS problems, in the main we need to keep our sights trained on OROP.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Sunday, February 13, 2011
ESM sitrep 13 feb 2011
Dear Colleagues,
An ESM rally was held at Bhiwani (Haryana) today. It was attended by approximately 400 ESM including families. The anchor Veteran Hav Rajbir Singh, 8 JAT had organized it meticulously. Colonel Rakesh Chaturvedi, Capt Dhir Singh, Lt Kameshwar Pande and self had joined the event.
The speakers underscored the point of ESM having come into their own. It was brought out that in the earlier Pay Commissions the pleas by Service Chiefs even to include a defence forces representative were summarily rejected by the Government. In contrast now the Government has gone to the extent of accepting constituting a separate Pay Commission for defence forces. This has been possible only because of the pressure that has been built up by the IESM since April 2008.
The main achievement of the IESM has been to arouse the awareness among the veteransjavascript:void(0) of the injustice they have been subjected to for a long time. But this is only the first step.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Thursday, February 3, 2011
ESM sitrep 02 Feb evening
From: raj kadyan
Subject: [IESM_Group:77] ESM sitrep 02 Feb evening
To: "iesmgroup 1"
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 10:22 PM
Dear Colleagues,
There have been quite a few mails suggesting that more officers should go in for filing court cases on the rank pay issue. This is based on the assumption that those who do not file cases may be left out of the beneficiaries' list when/if the case is decided in our favour. Anxiety on this score is understandable because Major Dhanapalan, who was the pioneer in this field, was the only beneficiary when a favourable judgment was received.
In this regard it may be known that the RDOA that has been fore-fronting the rank pay case has in its prayer included the entire affected officer community, including the widows. The judgment that is already nearing finality should therefore hopefully impact all of us that held the rank of Capt to Brigadier in the 1986-1996 period. Filing of more related cases at this stage would result in the courts grouping all such cases and this would cause delay.
While everyone is free to decide for himself, in the larger interest it may be advisable to await the final outcome of the RDOA petition. Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: [IESM_Group:77] ESM sitrep 02 Feb evening
To: "iesmgroup 1"
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 10:22 PM
Dear Colleagues,
There have been quite a few mails suggesting that more officers should go in for filing court cases on the rank pay issue. This is based on the assumption that those who do not file cases may be left out of the beneficiaries' list when/if the case is decided in our favour. Anxiety on this score is understandable because Major Dhanapalan, who was the pioneer in this field, was the only beneficiary when a favourable judgment was received.
In this regard it may be known that the RDOA that has been fore-fronting the rank pay case has in its prayer included the entire affected officer community, including the widows. The judgment that is already nearing finality should therefore hopefully impact all of us that held the rank of Capt to Brigadier in the 1986-1996 period. Filing of more related cases at this stage would result in the courts grouping all such cases and this would cause delay.
While everyone is free to decide for himself, in the larger interest it may be advisable to await the final outcome of the RDOA petition. Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Monday, January 31, 2011
Family Pension of Lt Col and Equivalent Ranks
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon – 122 001
Mobile-9811226676
IESM/Pension/Family/2011
Dated: 17 January 2011
To:
Mrs Sushma Nath, IAS
Secretary Ex Servicemen Welfare Department
Ministry of Defence
South Block, New Delhi – 110 011
Family Pension: Lt Col and Equivalent Ranks
Widows of Lt Cols and their equivalent ranks had been drawing a monthly pension of Rs 15,420.00 after implementation of the Sixth Pay Commission and after the Lt Cols were upgraded to Pay Band 4. This had been correctly worked out based on 30% of the sum of the minimum of pay band (Rs 37,400) + Grade Pay (Rs 8000) + Military Service Pay (Rs 6000). Widows have accordingly been getting their pension and have also received the arrears. However, an assumed error has now been introduced in the pension tables issued by the Ministry of Defence vide their circular dated 15.11.2010. According to these tables, the family pension of a Lt Col is fixed at Rs 8,760.00. It seems the Lt Col and equivalents have again been brought down to Pay Band 3 by those that prepared these tables.
The figure of Rs 8,760.00 as monthly family pension of Lt Col is beyond comprehension and this has caused avoidable consternation in the Ex Servicemen community, who are already edgy at their still pending demand of ‘one rank one pension’. I do sincerely hope this is only an error. May I request you to have it kindly rectified at the earliest.
A confirmation will be much appreciated.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Raj Kadyan
Chairman
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon – 122 001
Mobile-9811226676
IESM/Pension/Family/2011
Dated: 17 January 2011
To:
Mrs Sushma Nath, IAS
Secretary Ex Servicemen Welfare Department
Ministry of Defence
South Block, New Delhi – 110 011
Family Pension: Lt Col and Equivalent Ranks
Widows of Lt Cols and their equivalent ranks had been drawing a monthly pension of Rs 15,420.00 after implementation of the Sixth Pay Commission and after the Lt Cols were upgraded to Pay Band 4. This had been correctly worked out based on 30% of the sum of the minimum of pay band (Rs 37,400) + Grade Pay (Rs 8000) + Military Service Pay (Rs 6000). Widows have accordingly been getting their pension and have also received the arrears. However, an assumed error has now been introduced in the pension tables issued by the Ministry of Defence vide their circular dated 15.11.2010. According to these tables, the family pension of a Lt Col is fixed at Rs 8,760.00. It seems the Lt Col and equivalents have again been brought down to Pay Band 3 by those that prepared these tables.
The figure of Rs 8,760.00 as monthly family pension of Lt Col is beyond comprehension and this has caused avoidable consternation in the Ex Servicemen community, who are already edgy at their still pending demand of ‘one rank one pension’. I do sincerely hope this is only an error. May I request you to have it kindly rectified at the earliest.
A confirmation will be much appreciated.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Raj Kadyan
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