From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM sitrep 29 Apr evening
Date: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 9:40 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Election News
Efforts continue to help BJP in their elections. Addressing rallies, Press conferences, interactive sessions etc are some of the methods being followed by the Core Gp in particular and the ESM in general.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
28 Apr ....by the Chairman
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM sitrep 28 Apr evening
Date: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 10:41 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Election News
Telephonic messages of support for the advisory continue to pour in from PBOR from various areas. They all agree that under the present circumstances, any hope for OROP lies only with the BJP.
Denigration of Uniform
Veteran Thaplial from Uttar Khand telephoned to inform that Mr Mantri Prasad Naithani, a former Congress Minister in the State, was canvassing in Pauri area dressed in a military uniform. (He himself is not even an ESM). This was taken badly by the ESM in the area who derided him and challenged him to have the courage of serving in difficult areas even for a day. The vernacular Press picked it up in a big way. Reportedly, this started an anti Congress wave in the region.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM sitrep 28 Apr evening
Date: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 10:41 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Election News
Telephonic messages of support for the advisory continue to pour in from PBOR from various areas. They all agree that under the present circumstances, any hope for OROP lies only with the BJP.
Denigration of Uniform
Veteran Thaplial from Uttar Khand telephoned to inform that Mr Mantri Prasad Naithani, a former Congress Minister in the State, was canvassing in Pauri area dressed in a military uniform. (He himself is not even an ESM). This was taken badly by the ESM in the area who derided him and challenged him to have the courage of serving in difficult areas even for a day. The vernacular Press picked it up in a big way. Reportedly, this started an anti Congress wave in the region.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
IESM UPDATE & FUTURE PLANS By Maj Gen Satbir Singh..28 April 2009
IESM UPDATE AND FUTURE ACTION PLANS
Dear Friends,
1. The Advisory having been issued by the IESM for the Lok Sabha Elections keeping in mind the best interests of Defence Services, we need to do a lot to spread the message and motivate all Defence Personnel to vote for BJP/NDA. By doing so, we will not only be achieving our aims of getting OROP and other demands implemented but also strengthening the Defence Forces to face the future National Security Challenges. Let us not spend time on “why” and “how” of the Advisory. Let us put our faith with the BJP/NDA as a “One Time Testing”. I am sure they will deliver this time and by any chance if they don’t measure up, we will launch a very strong Movement Against them.
2. This time, let us not split our Votes. Defence Forces, should go full hog to vote for BJP/NDA. Victory of BJP will be the victory of IESM. We wish to assure you that, our decision to arrive at such an Advisory was taken after detailed deliberations, keeping in mind the future and the interest of Defence Forces. We need to develop such an environments wherein the Defence Services will be able to serve the nation with pride and dignity.
3. The Armed Forces have been kept out of the Decision Making loop of the Nation. We need to correct this serious anomaly both in the case of serving and retired personnel. We need to efficiently and effectively use the “Power of Vote” in order to create the required pressure and momentum with One Voice PAN India and ensure due justice to the Defence Forces.
4. Right to Vote at the place of posting for the serving personnel has been denied to us for the last five decades. Simple and workable rules have not been made to ensure each soldier and his /her dependants can cast their votes at the place of posting. The existing rules are so cumbersome and difficult that practically, the defence forces personnel are unable to cast their votes. This has been the main reason that the political parties and the Govts never took us seriously and kept on downgrading our status, Izzat and emoluments viz other central services. Brig GS Ghuman from Mohali has very rightly filed the writ petition in Punjab and Haryana High Court which has issued Notice to the Election Commission for not having carried out door to door survey for making defence personnel as voters at the place of their posting. This may not help us in this Lok Sabha Election, but surely we will benefit for future elections.
5. Civilian Control over the defence Forces, means the control of the elected representative of the people of India ie Parliament and the Govt and Not Rpt Not the bureaucracy which has been forcing its supremacy over the Defence Forces. This has been severely and strongly resented by defence personnel and the same needs to be corrected in the National interest.
6. My next point is with regard to membership drive of IESM. Friends, we have repeatedly requested all ESM Organizations and individual ESM to become members. There is no other way but to have One Umbrella Organization for all ESM of the Country. IESM has come a long way and it has all the requisite characteristics to function as the single Umbrella Organisation as a Federation of Ex servicemen Organisations. Let us work tirelessly to achieve the figure of over Two Million members. It can be done if every one puts in his/her best effort to spread the message, aims and objectives of IESM in every nook and corner of the country. Please volunteer to be convenors of, districts, cities, tehsils and block and forward your details at the earliest. The state convenors are requested for urgent actions on “Op Immediate Basis”.
7. As we go along, we will initiate other activities and plans to improve the satisfaction level of veterans. Employment opportunities, health care, education, including professional education, task forces for nation building activities are on our planning radars. We will evolve and develop ourselves as Forces to recon with. Only then we will be able to suitably stop the likes of Abhishek Manu Singhvi who indulged in insulting our Former Chief of Army Staff and Dy Chief of Army Staff by intentionally calling them “Mr” instead of “General” during Karan Thapar’s TV Programme, knowing it fully well that it is only the Defence Forces by the order of the President of India are allowed to prefix their rank before their name for ever………post retirement and even after they go away from this world.
8. The CD on 12 Apr 09 Rally at Jantar Mantar which includes the Advisory on voting in this election has been sent to all state Convenors and also circulated on the Net. The same is once again attached to this mail Please show this CD in each village of the country and also during meetings and rallies across country. Forward the same to as many Defence Personnel as possible.
9. Mission “Justice for Defence Forces” has gained Momentum. Let us give it a further push. We are going to Help Ourselves, only then God will help us.
God Bless and God Speed
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Dear Friends,
1. The Advisory having been issued by the IESM for the Lok Sabha Elections keeping in mind the best interests of Defence Services, we need to do a lot to spread the message and motivate all Defence Personnel to vote for BJP/NDA. By doing so, we will not only be achieving our aims of getting OROP and other demands implemented but also strengthening the Defence Forces to face the future National Security Challenges. Let us not spend time on “why” and “how” of the Advisory. Let us put our faith with the BJP/NDA as a “One Time Testing”. I am sure they will deliver this time and by any chance if they don’t measure up, we will launch a very strong Movement Against them.
2. This time, let us not split our Votes. Defence Forces, should go full hog to vote for BJP/NDA. Victory of BJP will be the victory of IESM. We wish to assure you that, our decision to arrive at such an Advisory was taken after detailed deliberations, keeping in mind the future and the interest of Defence Forces. We need to develop such an environments wherein the Defence Services will be able to serve the nation with pride and dignity.
3. The Armed Forces have been kept out of the Decision Making loop of the Nation. We need to correct this serious anomaly both in the case of serving and retired personnel. We need to efficiently and effectively use the “Power of Vote” in order to create the required pressure and momentum with One Voice PAN India and ensure due justice to the Defence Forces.
4. Right to Vote at the place of posting for the serving personnel has been denied to us for the last five decades. Simple and workable rules have not been made to ensure each soldier and his /her dependants can cast their votes at the place of posting. The existing rules are so cumbersome and difficult that practically, the defence forces personnel are unable to cast their votes. This has been the main reason that the political parties and the Govts never took us seriously and kept on downgrading our status, Izzat and emoluments viz other central services. Brig GS Ghuman from Mohali has very rightly filed the writ petition in Punjab and Haryana High Court which has issued Notice to the Election Commission for not having carried out door to door survey for making defence personnel as voters at the place of their posting. This may not help us in this Lok Sabha Election, but surely we will benefit for future elections.
5. Civilian Control over the defence Forces, means the control of the elected representative of the people of India ie Parliament and the Govt and Not Rpt Not the bureaucracy which has been forcing its supremacy over the Defence Forces. This has been severely and strongly resented by defence personnel and the same needs to be corrected in the National interest.
6. My next point is with regard to membership drive of IESM. Friends, we have repeatedly requested all ESM Organizations and individual ESM to become members. There is no other way but to have One Umbrella Organization for all ESM of the Country. IESM has come a long way and it has all the requisite characteristics to function as the single Umbrella Organisation as a Federation of Ex servicemen Organisations. Let us work tirelessly to achieve the figure of over Two Million members. It can be done if every one puts in his/her best effort to spread the message, aims and objectives of IESM in every nook and corner of the country. Please volunteer to be convenors of, districts, cities, tehsils and block and forward your details at the earliest. The state convenors are requested for urgent actions on “Op Immediate Basis”.
7. As we go along, we will initiate other activities and plans to improve the satisfaction level of veterans. Employment opportunities, health care, education, including professional education, task forces for nation building activities are on our planning radars. We will evolve and develop ourselves as Forces to recon with. Only then we will be able to suitably stop the likes of Abhishek Manu Singhvi who indulged in insulting our Former Chief of Army Staff and Dy Chief of Army Staff by intentionally calling them “Mr” instead of “General” during Karan Thapar’s TV Programme, knowing it fully well that it is only the Defence Forces by the order of the President of India are allowed to prefix their rank before their name for ever………post retirement and even after they go away from this world.
8. The CD on 12 Apr 09 Rally at Jantar Mantar which includes the Advisory on voting in this election has been sent to all state Convenors and also circulated on the Net. The same is once again attached to this mail Please show this CD in each village of the country and also during meetings and rallies across country. Forward the same to as many Defence Personnel as possible.
9. Mission “Justice for Defence Forces” has gained Momentum. Let us give it a further push. We are going to Help Ourselves, only then God will help us.
God Bless and God Speed
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Chairman's desk 27 Apr 2009
Date: Monday, 27 April, 2009, 9:55 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Election News
Core Gp members continue to visit different places in our continuing efforts to stay in touch particularly with those veterans that do not use the internet.
I had addressed a Press conference in Sikar (Rajasthan) Apr 26. It has been very widely covered in all the Hindi papers. Today, many ESM from different districts of the State called me to say how enthused they were at my advisory of supporting the BJP and expressed full accord.
Neglect of ESM
A group of ESM from Kupwara (J&K) called up today complaining that no one listens to their problems. They further added that the Sainik Board staff openly demand money for doing their prescribed work. The affected ESM must be finding it very frustrating. I have asked them to mail specifics so that the cases can be taken up.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Dear Colleagues,
Election News
Core Gp members continue to visit different places in our continuing efforts to stay in touch particularly with those veterans that do not use the internet.
I had addressed a Press conference in Sikar (Rajasthan) Apr 26. It has been very widely covered in all the Hindi papers. Today, many ESM from different districts of the State called me to say how enthused they were at my advisory of supporting the BJP and expressed full accord.
Neglect of ESM
A group of ESM from Kupwara (J&K) called up today complaining that no one listens to their problems. They further added that the Sainik Board staff openly demand money for doing their prescribed work. The affected ESM must be finding it very frustrating. I have asked them to mail specifics so that the cases can be taken up.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Mail from Maj Gen Renjen Treasurer IESM..27 Apr 2009
From: pravesh renjen prenjen@hotmail.com
Subject: FEEDBACK BY MEMBERS POSTED ON THE IESM WEB SITE
Date: Monday, 27 April, 2009, 6:27 PM
Dear Friends,
This is an attempt to answer as many of the queries raised on the "Feedback" link of our site www.iesm.org as possible in one go. It may not satisfy all, but slowly we shall have enough staff (as membership and our fund state improves) for us to be able to answer each one. At present, it is I and me.
Opening chapter/ branch in other countries. please go ahead and do do but all membership forms, fees and donations must come to the central HQ in Gurgaon. In fact, you may be able to help those who do not have an Acct in India and cannot remit in INR, to send you the money and you can send to us through your acct in India. We do not have the facility to receive payments in foreign currency at present.
We hope to start posting important information on ESM benefits on the site some day, as the site and its management matures. In the meantime, please join "Report my signal blogspot" and the "Indianveterans@yahoogroups.com" . These circulate most of the important info on their blogs.
Medal deposit with the President would re-commence after the new Govt is formed and we have seen its reaction/ response to our demands. These have been deposited four times already.
Those who wish to support our endeavours and membership drive, please encourage max numbers. Civs and serving soldiers can also join as "supporters'. They cannot be members. We have some such supporters already. Their contribution will be gratefully accepted as a donation. Please do not wait for others to ask you, go ahead and start motivating. Slowly others will join you.
Slowly, all contributions will be entered on the site. Each entry has to be done singly. Will take time. present focus is up to 31 Mar. Membership No/ Card will take time, please.
To Master-at-Arms IB Singh. Please register online on the site. Click"register" then click "register online" fill form and submit. Deposit money in any local branch of HDFC Bank and send us details of deposit by mail. You may download form too from website and post to us along with your cheque.
We propose to add provision for each member to see his full details (including amount sent by him). Action in hand to design software.
Similarly, we propose to add a provision of subsequent payments after the MEMBERSHIP FEES HAS BEEN PAID soon. At present, second payment is not accepted by the site. However, please send the subsequent donations to us directly. we shall enter from here.
For Wg Cdr Sridhar YS. We request you to support our cause and not only join the IESM as a member and donate generously, but also motivate others too to support our cause.
Maj Gen (Retd) PK Renjen, AVSM
Ph: 9810044542
Subject: FEEDBACK BY MEMBERS POSTED ON THE IESM WEB SITE
Date: Monday, 27 April, 2009, 6:27 PM
Dear Friends,
This is an attempt to answer as many of the queries raised on the "Feedback" link of our site www.iesm.org as possible in one go. It may not satisfy all, but slowly we shall have enough staff (as membership and our fund state improves) for us to be able to answer each one. At present, it is I and me.
Opening chapter/ branch in other countries. please go ahead and do do but all membership forms, fees and donations must come to the central HQ in Gurgaon. In fact, you may be able to help those who do not have an Acct in India and cannot remit in INR, to send you the money and you can send to us through your acct in India. We do not have the facility to receive payments in foreign currency at present.
We hope to start posting important information on ESM benefits on the site some day, as the site and its management matures. In the meantime, please join "Report my signal blogspot" and the "Indianveterans@yahoogroups.com" . These circulate most of the important info on their blogs.
Medal deposit with the President would re-commence after the new Govt is formed and we have seen its reaction/ response to our demands. These have been deposited four times already.
Those who wish to support our endeavours and membership drive, please encourage max numbers. Civs and serving soldiers can also join as "supporters'. They cannot be members. We have some such supporters already. Their contribution will be gratefully accepted as a donation. Please do not wait for others to ask you, go ahead and start motivating. Slowly others will join you.
Slowly, all contributions will be entered on the site. Each entry has to be done singly. Will take time. present focus is up to 31 Mar. Membership No/ Card will take time, please.
To Master-at-Arms IB Singh. Please register online on the site. Click"register" then click "register online" fill form and submit. Deposit money in any local branch of HDFC Bank and send us details of deposit by mail. You may download form too from website and post to us along with your cheque.
We propose to add provision for each member to see his full details (including amount sent by him). Action in hand to design software.
Similarly, we propose to add a provision of subsequent payments after the MEMBERSHIP FEES HAS BEEN PAID soon. At present, second payment is not accepted by the site. However, please send the subsequent donations to us directly. we shall enter from here.
For Wg Cdr Sridhar YS. We request you to support our cause and not only join the IESM as a member and donate generously, but also motivate others too to support our cause.
Maj Gen (Retd) PK Renjen, AVSM
Ph: 9810044542
Monday, April 27, 2009
Visit to Kanpur By Maj Gen's Satbir and Renjen
Dear Members ,
1. Gen Renjen and self visited Kanpur on 26 Apr 09. Request was made by the BJP through our IESM Convenor. BJP HQ at Delhi coordinated the visit. A Press Conference was held in Press Club and a Rally of ESM was organized in the evening (Press Release is att). The facts of OROP, Advisory given on voting in Lok Sabha Elections were discussed. The ESM were motivated and all unanimously raised hands to support the BJP/NDA. They all pledged to motivate other ESM, their dependants and supporters to ensure victory of both the candidates of BJP from Kanpur.
2. Every one expressed that incase BJP/NDA after coming to power does not fulfill their promise of implementing the OROP within 100 days they would start protest Movement against them. However, they were confident that BJP will deliver on its manifesto, with regard to the issues mentioned about Defence Services.
.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
1. Gen Renjen and self visited Kanpur on 26 Apr 09. Request was made by the BJP through our IESM Convenor. BJP HQ at Delhi coordinated the visit. A Press Conference was held in Press Club and a Rally of ESM was organized in the evening (Press Release is att). The facts of OROP, Advisory given on voting in Lok Sabha Elections were discussed. The ESM were motivated and all unanimously raised hands to support the BJP/NDA. They all pledged to motivate other ESM, their dependants and supporters to ensure victory of both the candidates of BJP from Kanpur.
2. Every one expressed that incase BJP/NDA after coming to power does not fulfill their promise of implementing the OROP within 100 days they would start protest Movement against them. However, they were confident that BJP will deliver on its manifesto, with regard to the issues mentioned about Defence Services.
.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Sitrep 26 apr 2009
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM sitrep 26 Apr evening
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in; TRUNCATED
Date: Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 10:36 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Core Gp members are visiting various places to meet the ESM, to analyse with them what choice of vote gives us greater hope and a higher chance to get OROP. The aim is to put the facts before them so that they can exercise their franchise in a more informed manner vis-a-vis our main demand as on date.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM sitrep 26 Apr evening
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in; TRUNCATED
Date: Sunday, 26 April, 2009, 10:36 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Core Gp members are visiting various places to meet the ESM, to analyse with them what choice of vote gives us greater hope and a higher chance to get OROP. The aim is to put the facts before them so that they can exercise their franchise in a more informed manner vis-a-vis our main demand as on date.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Letter from Chairman 25 Apr 2009
"REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in; TRUNCATED
Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 10:15 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Voting Dilemma?
It is never easy to decide who to cast your vote for. There is a suggestion that we should vote only for honest candidates. Indisputably laudable; no one can/should disagree. However, honesty is not that easy to judge in advance. A mendicant in the Himalayas or even an infantry company commander in remote location is very honest because there is little he can find to steal or pilfer. Does that indicate that he will continue to remain so if he is given a chance, to auction the liquor contracts for example?
Then again what is the barometer to judge honesty? There are allegations galore against the political leaders being made with impunity. How does one know these are true? Does one go by allegations, prosecution by law enforcement agencies or successful conviction by them? Further, what if one gets acquitted on appeal? Does it exonerate him/her completely? Or does a correspondent of a leading media outlet determine who is honest and who is not?
There are no easy answers. At the end, one will use individual perception and will be guided mainly by self interest.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 10:15 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Voting Dilemma?
It is never easy to decide who to cast your vote for. There is a suggestion that we should vote only for honest candidates. Indisputably laudable; no one can/should disagree. However, honesty is not that easy to judge in advance. A mendicant in the Himalayas or even an infantry company commander in remote location is very honest because there is little he can find to steal or pilfer. Does that indicate that he will continue to remain so if he is given a chance, to auction the liquor contracts for example?
Then again what is the barometer to judge honesty? There are allegations galore against the political leaders being made with impunity. How does one know these are true? Does one go by allegations, prosecution by law enforcement agencies or successful conviction by them? Further, what if one gets acquitted on appeal? Does it exonerate him/her completely? Or does a correspondent of a leading media outlet determine who is honest and who is not?
There are no easy answers. At the end, one will use individual perception and will be guided mainly by self interest.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Letter from Chairman 25 Apr 2009
"REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in; TRUNCATED
Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 10:15 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Voting Dilemma?
It is never easy to decide who to cast your vote for. There is a suggestion that we should vote only for honest candidates. Indisputably laudable; no one can/should disagree. However, honesty is not that easy to judge in advance. A mendicant in the Himalayas or even an infantry company commander in remote location is very honest because there is little he can find to steal or pilfer. Does that indicate that he will continue to remain so if he is given a chance, to auction the liquor contracts for example?
Then again what is the barometer to judge honesty? There are allegations galore against the political leaders being made with impunity. How does one know these are true? Does one go by allegations, prosecution by law enforcement agencies or successful conviction by them? Further, what if one gets acquitted on appeal? Does it exonerate him/her completely? Or does a correspondent of a leading media outlet determine who is honest and who is not?
There are no easy answers. At the end, one will use individual perception and will be guided mainly by self interest.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 10:15 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Voting Dilemma?
It is never easy to decide who to cast your vote for. There is a suggestion that we should vote only for honest candidates. Indisputably laudable; no one can/should disagree. However, honesty is not that easy to judge in advance. A mendicant in the Himalayas or even an infantry company commander in remote location is very honest because there is little he can find to steal or pilfer. Does that indicate that he will continue to remain so if he is given a chance, to auction the liquor contracts for example?
Then again what is the barometer to judge honesty? There are allegations galore against the political leaders being made with impunity. How does one know these are true? Does one go by allegations, prosecution by law enforcement agencies or successful conviction by them? Further, what if one gets acquitted on appeal? Does it exonerate him/her completely? Or does a correspondent of a leading media outlet determine who is honest and who is not?
There are no easy answers. At the end, one will use individual perception and will be guided mainly by self interest.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Friday, April 24, 2009
Agewell Foundation 23 April Meet
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM sitrep 23 Apr evening
Date: Thursday, 23 April, 2009, 10:54 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Interaction
Agewell Foundation had organised a symposium at India Habitat Centre on ‘Role of Older Persons in Democratic Process (With focus on One-Rank-One-Pension)’ at India Habitat Centre this evening. Admiral Subhash Chopra, Wg Cdr Praful Bakshi and I were the three panellists. There was reasonable attendance from diverse sections of society, including media. The point about OROP was effectively explained. Some apprehension of voting for BJP was allayed during interaction, including by Gen Satbir who had joined the audience subsequently. It was an opportunity well utilized.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM sitrep 23 Apr evening
Date: Thursday, 23 April, 2009, 10:54 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Interaction
Agewell Foundation had organised a symposium at India Habitat Centre on ‘Role of Older Persons in Democratic Process (With focus on One-Rank-One-Pension)’ at India Habitat Centre this evening. Admiral Subhash Chopra, Wg Cdr Praful Bakshi and I were the three panellists. There was reasonable attendance from diverse sections of society, including media. The point about OROP was effectively explained. Some apprehension of voting for BJP was allayed during interaction, including by Gen Satbir who had joined the audience subsequently. It was an opportunity well utilized.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Thursday, April 23, 2009
IESM Press Note dated 23 Apr 2009
Dear Friends,
Press Note dated 23 Apr 2009 regarding IESM Advisory to All ex Servicemen for Coming Lok Sabha Elections is circulated herewith.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
Press Note Dated: 23 Apr 2009
IESM Advisory to All ex Servicemen for Coming Lok Sabha Elections
Dear Members of the Media,
1. The UPA Government has shown total apathy towards the defence personnel both serving and retired. Our genuine demands have not been accepted. One Rank One Pension (OROP) has been rejected by the Govt without any valid reasons. The demands of serving personnel projected by the Chiefs have also not been addressed. It has taken six months for the Govt to finally accept one of the four demands ie placing Lt Col Officers from PB – 3 to PB-4. Here also, the grade pay of Rs 8,000/- has been granted where as the grade pay of civilian counter parts is Rs 8,700/-. The other demands of Jawans of increase of weightage for pension from 50% to 70%, correcting the anomaly of placing DGP rank above the Lt Gen and granting same grade pay as the civilian counter part have not yet been accepted.
2. In view of the above and also that the Congress Party has not included grant of OROP in its manifesto, the Defence Personnel are unhappy, anguished and hurt at the ways the Govt has ill treated them. Their status has been further degraded and downgraded and they have been given raw deal in the fixation of their pay and allowances and pensions.
3. That the BJP and its alliance partners have categorically stated in their manifestos that OROP will be implemented. Accordingly, the IESM has issued an Advisory on 12 April 2009 during the Rally held at Jantar Mantar to all ESM of India to vote and support BJP and its alliance partners in the coming Lok Sabha Elections. This is one time support to the NDA and incase they do not honour their promises as mentioned in their manifestoes, IESM will launch strong protest Movement against them.
4. Col Bhag Singh belonging to IESL Punjab, an ESM organization has issued statement lending support to congress. It is intriguing that Col Bhag Singh having very well known that the UPA Govt has done grave injustice to the Defence Forces, has issued statement to support Congress Party. Such an action on his part smacks of his personnel consideration being given priority over the interest of the organization that he is representing (Ex Servicemen). We at the Indian Ex servicemen Movement (IESM) which is an Umbrella Organization for all ex servicemen of India, totally oppose this action of Col Bhag Singh President IESL Punjab and request all Ex-Servicemen of India not to take side with our own detractors ie the Congress.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Press Note dated 23 Apr 2009 regarding IESM Advisory to All ex Servicemen for Coming Lok Sabha Elections is circulated herewith.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
Press Note Dated: 23 Apr 2009
IESM Advisory to All ex Servicemen for Coming Lok Sabha Elections
Dear Members of the Media,
1. The UPA Government has shown total apathy towards the defence personnel both serving and retired. Our genuine demands have not been accepted. One Rank One Pension (OROP) has been rejected by the Govt without any valid reasons. The demands of serving personnel projected by the Chiefs have also not been addressed. It has taken six months for the Govt to finally accept one of the four demands ie placing Lt Col Officers from PB – 3 to PB-4. Here also, the grade pay of Rs 8,000/- has been granted where as the grade pay of civilian counter parts is Rs 8,700/-. The other demands of Jawans of increase of weightage for pension from 50% to 70%, correcting the anomaly of placing DGP rank above the Lt Gen and granting same grade pay as the civilian counter part have not yet been accepted.
2. In view of the above and also that the Congress Party has not included grant of OROP in its manifesto, the Defence Personnel are unhappy, anguished and hurt at the ways the Govt has ill treated them. Their status has been further degraded and downgraded and they have been given raw deal in the fixation of their pay and allowances and pensions.
3. That the BJP and its alliance partners have categorically stated in their manifestos that OROP will be implemented. Accordingly, the IESM has issued an Advisory on 12 April 2009 during the Rally held at Jantar Mantar to all ESM of India to vote and support BJP and its alliance partners in the coming Lok Sabha Elections. This is one time support to the NDA and incase they do not honour their promises as mentioned in their manifestoes, IESM will launch strong protest Movement against them.
4. Col Bhag Singh belonging to IESL Punjab, an ESM organization has issued statement lending support to congress. It is intriguing that Col Bhag Singh having very well known that the UPA Govt has done grave injustice to the Defence Forces, has issued statement to support Congress Party. Such an action on his part smacks of his personnel consideration being given priority over the interest of the organization that he is representing (Ex Servicemen). We at the Indian Ex servicemen Movement (IESM) which is an Umbrella Organization for all ex servicemen of India, totally oppose this action of Col Bhag Singh President IESL Punjab and request all Ex-Servicemen of India not to take side with our own detractors ie the Congress.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Wednesday 22 April 2009
Subject: ESM sitrep 22 Apr evening
Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 10:09 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Elections
Closer to polling, BJP candidates might expect some help in door-to-door canvassing. This fits into our own plans and our stated policy. However, it has been made clear that logistics for it will be provided by the concerned candidate.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 10:09 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Elections
Closer to polling, BJP candidates might expect some help in door-to-door canvassing. This fits into our own plans and our stated policy. However, it has been made clear that logistics for it will be provided by the concerned candidate.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Agewell Foundation 23 Apr 2009 1830 hrs....
Just to remind.
The above, organised bt Agewell Foundation is scheduled from 1830 to 2030 hours on 23 Apr at Gulmohar Hall, India habitat Centre New Delhi. The subject is:
'Role of Older Persons in Democratic Process (With focus on one-rank-one-pension for Retired Service Personnel'
Good Press presence is expected. I am one of the three speakers, alongwith Admiral Subhash Chopra and Wg Cdr Praful Bakshi. It will be good to attend and project our point to the civil friends. Coffee is promised. Come with spouses, friends and neighbours.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
The above, organised bt Agewell Foundation is scheduled from 1830 to 2030 hours on 23 Apr at Gulmohar Hall, India habitat Centre New Delhi. The subject is:
'Role of Older Persons in Democratic Process (With focus on one-rank-one-pension for Retired Service Personnel'
Good Press presence is expected. I am one of the three speakers, alongwith Admiral Subhash Chopra and Wg Cdr Praful Bakshi. It will be good to attend and project our point to the civil friends. Coffee is promised. Come with spouses, friends and neighbours.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
Meeting the Defence Minister..Maj gen satbir singh 22 April 2009
Dated: 23 Apr 2009
MEETING WITH THE DEFENCE MINISTER ON 22 APRIL 2009
AND OTHER ISSUES
Dear Friends,
1. We continue our efforts towards our mission to get justice for the Defence Forces. Towards this, WO Balathilakan, Col. Bhardwaj & self met the Defence Minister at his residence at 9:30 AM on 22 April 2009. The meeting was facilitated by WO Balathilakan. The following issues were discussed:-
(a) We requested the Defence Minister for the latest status on grant of OROP. He informed that they were committed to grant improvement in pensions to the past pensioners & are expediting the finalization of the same. He informed that they are working on some where closer to the OROP but not the OROP as being demanded by us. We informed him that the concept of grant of same pension to ESM holding the same rank and having same length of service has been upheld by the Supreme Court also and as such this genuine demand must be accepted.
(b) We requested the Defence Minister that members from IESM must be part of
any discussion on the grant of OROP / enhancement of pensions to the past pensioners since IESM represents over two million ESM of our country. I informed him that a letter by our Chairman Gen. Kadyan addressed to the Defence Minister with copy to Secretary ESM has already been sent three days back. To this, the Defence Minister responded positively.
2. I also request maximum publicity & action by ESM on our Advisory issued on 12 April 2009 with regard to our vote & support to BJP during the coming Lok Sabha elections. We the ESM must have our interests of the whole community of ESM in mind in this regard. Our suggested support to BJP is one time testing since it is the only National Political party which has in writing committed to implement OROP at the earliest. Should they not act on this, we will go all out to oppose them. Let us ponder over “there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies”. We need to follow the “World Order Concept” of multipolarity, based on our interest “Hook on or Hook off”. We need to learn from such strategies.
3. Friends, let us increase our membership. All ESM must become the members of IESM. Please motivate others to join the Movement. All State Conveners are requested to constitute, District, City, Tehsil, Block committees in theirs states at the earliest & carry out extensive membership drive”.
“Hitch your wagons High up in the sky”
God bless God speed
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman IESM
MEETING WITH THE DEFENCE MINISTER ON 22 APRIL 2009
AND OTHER ISSUES
Dear Friends,
1. We continue our efforts towards our mission to get justice for the Defence Forces. Towards this, WO Balathilakan, Col. Bhardwaj & self met the Defence Minister at his residence at 9:30 AM on 22 April 2009. The meeting was facilitated by WO Balathilakan. The following issues were discussed:-
(a) We requested the Defence Minister for the latest status on grant of OROP. He informed that they were committed to grant improvement in pensions to the past pensioners & are expediting the finalization of the same. He informed that they are working on some where closer to the OROP but not the OROP as being demanded by us. We informed him that the concept of grant of same pension to ESM holding the same rank and having same length of service has been upheld by the Supreme Court also and as such this genuine demand must be accepted.
(b) We requested the Defence Minister that members from IESM must be part of
any discussion on the grant of OROP / enhancement of pensions to the past pensioners since IESM represents over two million ESM of our country. I informed him that a letter by our Chairman Gen. Kadyan addressed to the Defence Minister with copy to Secretary ESM has already been sent three days back. To this, the Defence Minister responded positively.
2. I also request maximum publicity & action by ESM on our Advisory issued on 12 April 2009 with regard to our vote & support to BJP during the coming Lok Sabha elections. We the ESM must have our interests of the whole community of ESM in mind in this regard. Our suggested support to BJP is one time testing since it is the only National Political party which has in writing committed to implement OROP at the earliest. Should they not act on this, we will go all out to oppose them. Let us ponder over “there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies”. We need to follow the “World Order Concept” of multipolarity, based on our interest “Hook on or Hook off”. We need to learn from such strategies.
3. Friends, let us increase our membership. All ESM must become the members of IESM. Please motivate others to join the Movement. All State Conveners are requested to constitute, District, City, Tehsil, Block committees in theirs states at the earliest & carry out extensive membership drive”.
“Hitch your wagons High up in the sky”
God bless God speed
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman IESM
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
TV programme called off on CNBC 18
Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 10:05 PM
Dear Colleagues,
TV Programme
Due to some developments in Sri Lanka, the telecast of Karan Thapar’s programme has been called off. The programme was too tightly timed and one got no chance to reply to/ rebut some of the points made by others.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Dear Colleagues,
TV Programme
Due to some developments in Sri Lanka, the telecast of Karan Thapar’s programme has been called off. The programme was too tightly timed and one got no chance to reply to/ rebut some of the points made by others.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Monday, April 20, 2009
TV programme on CNBC 18 on IESM election Advisory
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 9:26 PM
Dear Colleagues,
TV Programme
ESM may like to watch the TV programme on CNBC 18 on the IESM election advisory as per following schedule:
2230 hours on 21 Apr 09
1630 hours on 22 Apr 09
The programme will be anchored by Karan Thapar and will have the following participants:
Gen Shankar Roychowdhury as senior ESM representative
Mr Singhvi as Congress spokesperson
Mr Prakash Chawdekar as BJP spokesperson
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan as IESM representative
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Dear Colleagues,
TV Programme
ESM may like to watch the TV programme on CNBC 18 on the IESM election advisory as per following schedule:
2230 hours on 21 Apr 09
1630 hours on 22 Apr 09
The programme will be anchored by Karan Thapar and will have the following participants:
Gen Shankar Roychowdhury as senior ESM representative
Mr Singhvi as Congress spokesperson
Mr Prakash Chawdekar as BJP spokesperson
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan as IESM representative
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Letter to RM by Chairman IESM Lt Gen Raj kadyan
IESM/OROP/April 19 19 April 2009
To
Shri AK Antony
Hon’ble Minister of Defence
South Block
New Delhi - 110 011
Dear Hon’ble Defence Minister,
It is learnt that the Secretary Department of Ex Servicemen Welfare in the Ministry of Defence has called some Ex Servicemen Organisation for discussion to form a joint approach on an alternative to ‘one rank one pension’. We in the Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) have not received any communication on the subject.
It submitted that IESM is not an organisation or an association but a federation in the form of an umbrella. It is registered under NO: DR/GGN/179 (2008-09).The IESM today represents the demand of all the over two million Ex Servicemen in the country and has been spearheading the current struggle for seeking justice.
Do allow me to mention that any decision taken without the participation of the IESM will not be binding on it.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Copy to:
Shri SM Acharya, IAS
Secretary Department of Ex Servicemen Welfare
Ministry of Defence
South Block, New Delhi - 110 011
To
Shri AK Antony
Hon’ble Minister of Defence
South Block
New Delhi - 110 011
Dear Hon’ble Defence Minister,
It is learnt that the Secretary Department of Ex Servicemen Welfare in the Ministry of Defence has called some Ex Servicemen Organisation for discussion to form a joint approach on an alternative to ‘one rank one pension’. We in the Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) have not received any communication on the subject.
It submitted that IESM is not an organisation or an association but a federation in the form of an umbrella. It is registered under NO: DR/GGN/179 (2008-09).The IESM today represents the demand of all the over two million Ex Servicemen in the country and has been spearheading the current struggle for seeking justice.
Do allow me to mention that any decision taken without the participation of the IESM will not be binding on it.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Copy to:
Shri SM Acharya, IAS
Secretary Department of Ex Servicemen Welfare
Ministry of Defence
South Block, New Delhi - 110 011
Message by Lt Gen Kadyan IESM Chairman
Date: Saturday, 18 April, 2009, 10:12 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Advisory
One feels edified at the continuing debate on the advisory. I personally find both ayes and the nays informative and interesting. The environment will agree that the weight of an argument lies in its content and not on the shrillness of tone or the harshness of adjectives. While the debate must continue, let us keep its genre at a level that behoves us. I hope to participate in a TV debate next week on the subject; will disseminate details if it materialises.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
12 April 2009-
a few days ago Retired personnel of Indian defence services on Sunday staged a massive protest rally here, to express their anguish over Central Governments delay over their long-pending demand for One Rank-One Pension.
New Delhi, Apr 12 : Retired personnel of Indian defence services on Sunday staged a massive protest rally here, to express their anguish over Central Government's delay over their long-pending demand for 'One Rank-One Pension'.
Ex-servicemen of varying ranks also returned their medals to the government.
Their demand 'One Rank-One Pension' stipulates that irrespective of the date on which the soldier retires, he should get the same pension.
The former defence personnel have cited that in absence of 'One Rank-One Pension', anomalies in the pension of two persons of same rank arise and also there are instances of hundreds of war veterans drawing lower amount of pension as compared to personnel who retired in the recent past.
"Government should have fulfilled our demands by now, but still these are not met. After trying whatever we can, we have been forced to put forth our demand in public. We want to show our unity to the country and secondly at the end of the rally we will give advice, to vote for what particular party," said Lieutenant General Raj Kadyan, Indian Ex- servicemen Movement (IESM) Chairman.
Capitalising on the demands voiced by the former uniformed personnel of defence forces, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has come forth to support their demand and in its election manifesto. The party has promised to implement the 'One Rank-One Pension' for ex-servicemen.
"We have promised in our manifesto that this pension will be tax free and the money that will be collected in the bank and the interest will have no income tax on it," said V. K. Malhotra, senior Bharatiya Janata Party leader.
The movement has now intensified since the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission did not address the issue of 'One Rank-One Pension'.
Ex-servicemen stage protest for One Rank-One Pension
Dear Colleagues,
Advisory
One feels edified at the continuing debate on the advisory. I personally find both ayes and the nays informative and interesting. The environment will agree that the weight of an argument lies in its content and not on the shrillness of tone or the harshness of adjectives. While the debate must continue, let us keep its genre at a level that behoves us. I hope to participate in a TV debate next week on the subject; will disseminate details if it materialises.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
12 April 2009-
a few days ago Retired personnel of Indian defence services on Sunday staged a massive protest rally here, to express their anguish over Central Governments delay over their long-pending demand for One Rank-One Pension.
New Delhi, Apr 12 : Retired personnel of Indian defence services on Sunday staged a massive protest rally here, to express their anguish over Central Government's delay over their long-pending demand for 'One Rank-One Pension'.
Ex-servicemen of varying ranks also returned their medals to the government.
Their demand 'One Rank-One Pension' stipulates that irrespective of the date on which the soldier retires, he should get the same pension.
The former defence personnel have cited that in absence of 'One Rank-One Pension', anomalies in the pension of two persons of same rank arise and also there are instances of hundreds of war veterans drawing lower amount of pension as compared to personnel who retired in the recent past.
"Government should have fulfilled our demands by now, but still these are not met. After trying whatever we can, we have been forced to put forth our demand in public. We want to show our unity to the country and secondly at the end of the rally we will give advice, to vote for what particular party," said Lieutenant General Raj Kadyan, Indian Ex- servicemen Movement (IESM) Chairman.
Capitalising on the demands voiced by the former uniformed personnel of defence forces, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has come forth to support their demand and in its election manifesto. The party has promised to implement the 'One Rank-One Pension' for ex-servicemen.
"We have promised in our manifesto that this pension will be tax free and the money that will be collected in the bank and the interest will have no income tax on it," said V. K. Malhotra, senior Bharatiya Janata Party leader.
The movement has now intensified since the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission did not address the issue of 'One Rank-One Pension'.
Ex-servicemen stage protest for One Rank-One Pension
Jantar Mantar closed down wef 13 Apr 2009
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM sitrep 19 Apr evening
Date: Sunday, 19 April, 2009, 10:28 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Elections
The country is gripped in the election fever. There is no clarity yet on the likely outcome. The ESM continue to wait with hope and wish that the new government is favourably disposed towards their cause.
Jantar Mantar
ESM are once again reminded that the Jantar Mantar venue is closed down with effect from 13 Apr 2009. Our apologies to Col DP Singh and his party from Mumbai that arrived at Jantar Mantar today and did not find anyone of us there.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM sitrep 19 Apr evening
Date: Sunday, 19 April, 2009, 10:28 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Elections
The country is gripped in the election fever. There is no clarity yet on the likely outcome. The ESM continue to wait with hope and wish that the new government is favourably disposed towards their cause.
Jantar Mantar
ESM are once again reminded that the Jantar Mantar venue is closed down with effect from 13 Apr 2009. Our apologies to Col DP Singh and his party from Mumbai that arrived at Jantar Mantar today and did not find anyone of us there.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Thursday, April 16, 2009
Mail from Raj Kadyan.....16 Apr 2009
From: vivek bopiah vivek_bopiah@hotmail.com
To: "Raj Kadyan" rajkadyan@yahoo.com , TRUNCATED
Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 11:18 PM
Dear Raj,
I had written to you (via Indian Veterans) that we should approach other parties, big and small, to put forth our reasonong and get them to endorse our stand. No doubt some may agreed, some would have been ambivalent and some totally non committal. We are putting all our eggs in one shaky basket who have already stated that in the eventuality of a coalition Govt they will try and convince other partners to support their stand.
It is a foregone conclusion that there will be a coalition Govt. It would have been possible to get a few of its partners to support our stand in the parliament, which would have added muscle to our 25 year long standing demand. All these years we really had no one to espouse our cause relentlessly.
Even now, notwithstanding the advisory, the IESM should try and approach other parties too and try and convince them to take a positive stand. This would be playing politics apolitically.
Warm regards
Vivek Bopiah
....
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:49:08 -0700
From: rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Dear Vombatkere,
I appreciate your views. Do allow me to offer a few alarifications:
1. The IESM has nothing to do with demanding IT exemption, nor is the ESM a beneficiary. As known it applies only to the serving.
2. The IESM did not 'welcome' Advani in the manner your message seems to suggest. He came of his own volition; we merely agreed to meet him.
3. You have raised valid points against our advisory to vote for BJP. However, you have not suggested any alternative course we could have adopted in pursuit of OROP.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
To: "Raj Kadyan" rajkadyan@yahoo.com , TRUNCATED
Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 11:18 PM
Dear Raj,
I had written to you (via Indian Veterans) that we should approach other parties, big and small, to put forth our reasonong and get them to endorse our stand. No doubt some may agreed, some would have been ambivalent and some totally non committal. We are putting all our eggs in one shaky basket who have already stated that in the eventuality of a coalition Govt they will try and convince other partners to support their stand.
It is a foregone conclusion that there will be a coalition Govt. It would have been possible to get a few of its partners to support our stand in the parliament, which would have added muscle to our 25 year long standing demand. All these years we really had no one to espouse our cause relentlessly.
Even now, notwithstanding the advisory, the IESM should try and approach other parties too and try and convince them to take a positive stand. This would be playing politics apolitically.
Warm regards
Vivek Bopiah
....
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:49:08 -0700
From: rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Dear Vombatkere,
I appreciate your views. Do allow me to offer a few alarifications:
1. The IESM has nothing to do with demanding IT exemption, nor is the ESM a beneficiary. As known it applies only to the serving.
2. The IESM did not 'welcome' Advani in the manner your message seems to suggest. He came of his own volition; we merely agreed to meet him.
3. You have raised valid points against our advisory to vote for BJP. However, you have not suggested any alternative course we could have adopted in pursuit of OROP.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
IESM ..Dehra Dun members......16 Apr 2009
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 16 Apr evening
Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 10:04 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Membership
Dehradun (old members)
1. AVM D Chilkoti
2. Brig Raghunath
3. Cmde S N Tyagi
4. Cmde B S Sekhon “
5. Col P L Sachdev (Membership drive volunteer)
6. Col Dhanpat Rai
7 Col Sethi
8 Col Dimri
9 Col Thapliyal
10 Col Kathuria
11 Col S K Sharma
12 Col Varma
13 Col J L Kohli
14 Col R L Sharma
15 Col Kamal Thapa
16 Col C P Sati
17 Col Johar
18 Col J N Taneja
19 Col S K Paul
20 Col Painuly
21 Col S B S Negi
22 Col R B S Bisht, SM
23 Col T S Payal
24 Col K S Ratra
25 Gp Capt C S Mishra
26 Gp Capt N Badhwar
27 Gp Capt S S Malik
28 Wg Cdr J S Rawat
29 Wg Cdr S C Sawhney
30 Lt Cdr K S Rawat
31 Lt Cdr Chauhan H S
32 Lt Cdr M S Negi
33 Lt Cdr S S Negi
34 Maj B S Lunthi
35 Maj R C Pandey
36 CPO J S Bisht
37 M CPO-2 D D S Negi
38 H/Lt(IN) G S Rawat
39 Shri Arvind Verma
40 CPO M P Bandooni
41 M CPO-2 M C Bhatt
42 Sub Maj Balwant Singh
43 Sub Maj M S Sajwan
44 Sub Maj Mehra
45 WO Talwar
46 Sub Kalyan Singh
47 Cpl Ranbir Harnal
New Members ((Motivator Col Payal T S)
48 Wg Cdr N K Madan
49 Col V B Jaitly
50 Maj G N Misra
51 Lt Cdr K S K S Rawat
52 Lt Cdr Harendra Singh
53 Lt Cdr Sharan Singh
54 H/Lt(IN) Prabal Singh Negi
55 CPO Sohan Lal
56 CPO J S Bisht
57 M CPO-II S S Panwar
Misc
The inflow of complimentary telephone calls from the PBOR continues. The most touching was from veteran Mohammad Toshi from Kashmir expressing gratitude of his colleagues for the noble work undertaken by the IESM. He expressed his somewhat helpless inability to organise an ESM gathering in that area due to the prevailing disturbed conditions.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 16 Apr evening
Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 10:04 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Membership
Dehradun (old members)
1. AVM D Chilkoti
2. Brig Raghunath
3. Cmde S N Tyagi
4. Cmde B S Sekhon “
5. Col P L Sachdev (Membership drive volunteer)
6. Col Dhanpat Rai
7 Col Sethi
8 Col Dimri
9 Col Thapliyal
10 Col Kathuria
11 Col S K Sharma
12 Col Varma
13 Col J L Kohli
14 Col R L Sharma
15 Col Kamal Thapa
16 Col C P Sati
17 Col Johar
18 Col J N Taneja
19 Col S K Paul
20 Col Painuly
21 Col S B S Negi
22 Col R B S Bisht, SM
23 Col T S Payal
24 Col K S Ratra
25 Gp Capt C S Mishra
26 Gp Capt N Badhwar
27 Gp Capt S S Malik
28 Wg Cdr J S Rawat
29 Wg Cdr S C Sawhney
30 Lt Cdr K S Rawat
31 Lt Cdr Chauhan H S
32 Lt Cdr M S Negi
33 Lt Cdr S S Negi
34 Maj B S Lunthi
35 Maj R C Pandey
36 CPO J S Bisht
37 M CPO-2 D D S Negi
38 H/Lt(IN) G S Rawat
39 Shri Arvind Verma
40 CPO M P Bandooni
41 M CPO-2 M C Bhatt
42 Sub Maj Balwant Singh
43 Sub Maj M S Sajwan
44 Sub Maj Mehra
45 WO Talwar
46 Sub Kalyan Singh
47 Cpl Ranbir Harnal
New Members ((Motivator Col Payal T S)
48 Wg Cdr N K Madan
49 Col V B Jaitly
50 Maj G N Misra
51 Lt Cdr K S K S Rawat
52 Lt Cdr Harendra Singh
53 Lt Cdr Sharan Singh
54 H/Lt(IN) Prabal Singh Negi
55 CPO Sohan Lal
56 CPO J S Bisht
57 M CPO-II S S Panwar
Misc
The inflow of complimentary telephone calls from the PBOR continues. The most touching was from veteran Mohammad Toshi from Kashmir expressing gratitude of his colleagues for the noble work undertaken by the IESM. He expressed his somewhat helpless inability to organise an ESM gathering in that area due to the prevailing disturbed conditions.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Core Group meeting 13 April 2009..Decisions
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 13 Apr evening
Date: Monday, 13 April, 2009, 10:04 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Support to BJP
The advisory issued on 12 April must be given the widest and the fastest dissemination. All ESM must vote and must motivate their families, relatives and friends etc to do the same. It is even more important to vote than the party one votes for. In a democracy the voter’s day comes but just once in five years and ESM should form a tradition not to miss voting that day, this time as well as in future elections.
In the limited time available, the ESM must organize, form core committees/group, contact the BJP candidate and offer all possible help even other than votes that he needs. The ESM have better organizational skills than anyone else. As a body the ESM must carry out door to door canvassing etc.
BJP victory is ESM victory.
IESM Core Gp Meeting
The Core Gp met 13 Apr. Following decisions were taken:
1. All out efforts would be made to ensure success of BJP candidates.
2. The BJP would be asked to categorically commit that should the form the government at the Centre they would implement OROP within 100 days of assuming office.
3. The Jantar Mantar venue will be wound up and the operations would henceforth be undertaken from the IESM office at 546, Sector-23, Gurgaon.
4. In view of the elections, next plan will be formulated after the new government is formed at the Centre.
5. The time interval will be utilised to increase membership, hold contact meetings with maximum ESM and build up the organisational structure down to Block level in each State.
6. A periodic newsletter in vernacular will be published in the form of a leaflet to reach out to the rank and file in the countryside.
7. The internal functioning of the Core Gp will be spruced up to improve speed of work.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 13 Apr evening
Date: Monday, 13 April, 2009, 10:04 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Support to BJP
The advisory issued on 12 April must be given the widest and the fastest dissemination. All ESM must vote and must motivate their families, relatives and friends etc to do the same. It is even more important to vote than the party one votes for. In a democracy the voter’s day comes but just once in five years and ESM should form a tradition not to miss voting that day, this time as well as in future elections.
In the limited time available, the ESM must organize, form core committees/group, contact the BJP candidate and offer all possible help even other than votes that he needs. The ESM have better organizational skills than anyone else. As a body the ESM must carry out door to door canvassing etc.
BJP victory is ESM victory.
IESM Core Gp Meeting
The Core Gp met 13 Apr. Following decisions were taken:
1. All out efforts would be made to ensure success of BJP candidates.
2. The BJP would be asked to categorically commit that should the form the government at the Centre they would implement OROP within 100 days of assuming office.
3. The Jantar Mantar venue will be wound up and the operations would henceforth be undertaken from the IESM office at 546, Sector-23, Gurgaon.
4. In view of the elections, next plan will be formulated after the new government is formed at the Centre.
5. The time interval will be utilised to increase membership, hold contact meetings with maximum ESM and build up the organisational structure down to Block level in each State.
6. A periodic newsletter in vernacular will be published in the form of a leaflet to reach out to the rank and file in the countryside.
7. The internal functioning of the Core Gp will be spruced up to improve speed of work.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
Maha Rally Moments as captured by Brig CS Kamboj Set 1
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Maha Rally 12 April 2009 ..Advisory by Chairman
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 12 Apr evening
Date: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 10:11 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Maha Rally 12 April 09
The rally was held as scheduled. There was good attendance, estimated at nearly 8,000 ESM including families. The heterogeneous mix was a notable feature. States represented were – Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, UP, Uttarkhand, HP, Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan. ESM belonging to different organisations had assembled. At the end, approximately 2000 medals were deposited with the President.
Highlight of the day was the issue of voting advisory that the ESM had been persistently demanding. In this connection following points were made:
1. Voting is a constitutional right and everyone is free to vote as per his/her choice.
2. Vote is an important weapon in our armoury and must be used with great care and thought.
3. We must follow the principle, ‘we will help those who help us’.
4. OROP being 25 years old problem, national political parties that held power during the period were recalled – Some 11 years Congress, 5 years UPA with Congress as a dominant party and some six years NDA with the BJP as the dominant party. Neither of them sanctioned OROP.
5. Current situation is that the Congress has rejected the OROP in Dec 2008 and have made no mention of it in their new election manifesto. On the contrary, the BJP has made a specific mention in their manifesto to say that the principle of one rank one pension will be implemented. In addition their Prime Ministerial candidate Mr LK Advani visited Jantar Mantar and made a categorical commitment to implement OROP. No one from the Congress has established any contact.
6. Based on the above analysis, it seems logical that keeping in the mind the interests of the over two million Ex Servicemen vis-à-vis OROP, BJP is a better choice.
7. It was reiterated that this is only an advisory and everyone has a right vote as he/she deems fit.
The message was generally well received.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 12 Apr evening
Date: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 10:11 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Maha Rally 12 April 09
The rally was held as scheduled. There was good attendance, estimated at nearly 8,000 ESM including families. The heterogeneous mix was a notable feature. States represented were – Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, UP, Uttarkhand, HP, Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan. ESM belonging to different organisations had assembled. At the end, approximately 2000 medals were deposited with the President.
Highlight of the day was the issue of voting advisory that the ESM had been persistently demanding. In this connection following points were made:
1. Voting is a constitutional right and everyone is free to vote as per his/her choice.
2. Vote is an important weapon in our armoury and must be used with great care and thought.
3. We must follow the principle, ‘we will help those who help us’.
4. OROP being 25 years old problem, national political parties that held power during the period were recalled – Some 11 years Congress, 5 years UPA with Congress as a dominant party and some six years NDA with the BJP as the dominant party. Neither of them sanctioned OROP.
5. Current situation is that the Congress has rejected the OROP in Dec 2008 and have made no mention of it in their new election manifesto. On the contrary, the BJP has made a specific mention in their manifesto to say that the principle of one rank one pension will be implemented. In addition their Prime Ministerial candidate Mr LK Advani visited Jantar Mantar and made a categorical commitment to implement OROP. No one from the Congress has established any contact.
6. Based on the above analysis, it seems logical that keeping in the mind the interests of the over two million Ex Servicemen vis-à-vis OROP, BJP is a better choice.
7. It was reiterated that this is only an advisory and everyone has a right vote as he/she deems fit.
The message was generally well received.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Monday, April 13, 2009
Jantar Mantar Maha Rally 12 April
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
An email received from Lt Gen Raj Kadyan, Chairman IESM, giving IESM SITREP for 12 Apr 09, is appended below.
The photographs taken at Jantar today will follow soon, in batches. The photos will give you a good idea of the representation from large number of states.
Another highlight of the function was a skit presented by the team of veterans from Lucknow - the skit was very well received by the audience and the media.
We will try and send you the transcript of the script. I am sure you will enjoy it.
Broadly the skit was that one ESM dressed up as Rawan; some of the ten faces were Dr Manmohan Singh, Sonia Gandhi, RM, FM and others. Another ESM was dressed up as Ram. Ram asked questions related to the problems of the ESM, Rawan gave funny answer depicting what the present Government did to ESM. At the end Rawan admitted that when he goes to heaven he will have to answer to the Almighty. Therefore, Rawan decides to give justice to ESM.
Media presence was much less compared to our last rally; reason is obvious - the election fever gets higher priority compared to the ESM rally.
I may also add here that while the ESM from distance stations came in large numbers - in spite of repeated humble requests the turn out of ESM from NCR could be counted on finger tips; I am sure you could have done better SIRS.
Some of the ESM were looking around for the President of IESL. When they came to know that President IESL had not come for the rally - the ESM became very angry and used abusive language as they felt cheated by President IESL.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 12 Apr evening
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in ; TRUNCATED
Date: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 10:11 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Maha Rally 12 April 09
The rally was held as scheduled. There was good attendance, estimated at nearly 8,000 ESM including families. The heterogeneous mix was a notable feature. States represented were – Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, UP, Uttarkhand, HP, Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan. ESM belonging to different organisations had assembled. At the end, approximately 2000 medals were deposited with the President.
Highlight of the day was the issue of voting advisory that the ESM had been persistently demanding. In this connection following points were made:
1. Voting is a constitutional right and everyone is free to vote as per his/her choice.
2. Vote is an important weapon in our armoury and must be used with great care and thought.
3. We must follow the principle, ‘we will help those who help us’.
4. OROP being 25 years old problem, national political parties that held power during the period were recalled – Some 11 years Congress, 5 years UPA with Congress as a dominant party and some six years NDA with the BJP as the dominant party. Neither of them sanctioned OROP.
5. Current situation is that the Congress has rejected the OROP in Dec 2008 and have made no mention of it in their new election manifesto. On the contrary, the BJP has made a specific mention in their manifesto to say that the principle of one rank one pension will be implemented. In addition their Prime Ministerial candidate Mr LK Advani visited Jantar Mantar and made a categorical commitment to implement OROP. No one from the Congress has established any contact.
6. Based on the above analysis, it seems logical that keeping in the mind the interests of the over two million Ex Servicemen vis-à-vis OROP, BJP is a better choice.
7. It was reiterated that this is only an advisory and everyone has a right vote as he/she deems fit.
The message was generally well received.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Jai Hind.
An email received from Lt Gen Raj Kadyan, Chairman IESM, giving IESM SITREP for 12 Apr 09, is appended below.
The photographs taken at Jantar today will follow soon, in batches. The photos will give you a good idea of the representation from large number of states.
Another highlight of the function was a skit presented by the team of veterans from Lucknow - the skit was very well received by the audience and the media.
We will try and send you the transcript of the script. I am sure you will enjoy it.
Broadly the skit was that one ESM dressed up as Rawan; some of the ten faces were Dr Manmohan Singh, Sonia Gandhi, RM, FM and others. Another ESM was dressed up as Ram. Ram asked questions related to the problems of the ESM, Rawan gave funny answer depicting what the present Government did to ESM. At the end Rawan admitted that when he goes to heaven he will have to answer to the Almighty. Therefore, Rawan decides to give justice to ESM.
Media presence was much less compared to our last rally; reason is obvious - the election fever gets higher priority compared to the ESM rally.
I may also add here that while the ESM from distance stations came in large numbers - in spite of repeated humble requests the turn out of ESM from NCR could be counted on finger tips; I am sure you could have done better SIRS.
Some of the ESM were looking around for the President of IESL. When they came to know that President IESL had not come for the rally - the ESM became very angry and used abusive language as they felt cheated by President IESL.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 12 Apr evening
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in ; TRUNCATED
Date: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 10:11 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Maha Rally 12 April 09
The rally was held as scheduled. There was good attendance, estimated at nearly 8,000 ESM including families. The heterogeneous mix was a notable feature. States represented were – Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, UP, Uttarkhand, HP, Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan. ESM belonging to different organisations had assembled. At the end, approximately 2000 medals were deposited with the President.
Highlight of the day was the issue of voting advisory that the ESM had been persistently demanding. In this connection following points were made:
1. Voting is a constitutional right and everyone is free to vote as per his/her choice.
2. Vote is an important weapon in our armoury and must be used with great care and thought.
3. We must follow the principle, ‘we will help those who help us’.
4. OROP being 25 years old problem, national political parties that held power during the period were recalled – Some 11 years Congress, 5 years UPA with Congress as a dominant party and some six years NDA with the BJP as the dominant party. Neither of them sanctioned OROP.
5. Current situation is that the Congress has rejected the OROP in Dec 2008 and have made no mention of it in their new election manifesto. On the contrary, the BJP has made a specific mention in their manifesto to say that the principle of one rank one pension will be implemented. In addition their Prime Ministerial candidate Mr LK Advani visited Jantar Mantar and made a categorical commitment to implement OROP. No one from the Congress has established any contact.
6. Based on the above analysis, it seems logical that keeping in the mind the interests of the over two million Ex Servicemen vis-à-vis OROP, BJP is a better choice.
7. It was reiterated that this is only an advisory and everyone has a right vote as he/she deems fit.
The message was generally well received.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Friday, April 10, 2009
Jantar Mantar 11 April
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 10 Apr evening
Date: Friday, 10 April, 2009, 10:00 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Jantar Mantar remains activated.
Maha Rally 12 April 09
All available Core Gp members met at Jantar Mantar this evening for a kind of general bolt tightening and for finalising who/when/what/where et al. Preparations are in place and a record turnout is expected.
We hope to see you all at 1100 hours 12 April.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 10 Apr evening
Date: Friday, 10 April, 2009, 10:00 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Jantar Mantar remains activated.
Maha Rally 12 April 09
All available Core Gp members met at Jantar Mantar this evening for a kind of general bolt tightening and for finalising who/when/what/where et al. Preparations are in place and a record turnout is expected.
We hope to see you all at 1100 hours 12 April.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Tentative Speakers for the Maha Rally 12 April 2009
Jhajjar Hon Lt Kameshwar PandeyConvenor* Jhajjar
Kerala W/o PR Balathilken
M’dergarh, H’naW/o OP YadavConvenor* M’dergarh
Farqabd, UP Sub DS YadavConvenor* M’dergarh
Behrod, Raj Hon Capt RamnathConvenor* Behrod
GG, Har Mrs Shiksha Bhardwaj Indep; mother of Umang
Punjab Cpl KS Kumbra
Bawal, Har Capt Budh RamConvenor* Bawal
Lucknow, UP Petty O GK Awasthy
GG, Har Maj Jakhar
Hissar, Har Sub Hari SinghConvenor* Hissar
Alwar, Rajasthan Brig KartarHead IESL Rajasthan
Kharar ,Punjab Sub Maj Nirvair SinghVP IESL Mohali
Jhajjar, Haryna Capt Rathee
Thanjavur, TN Hav Santhanan
Surheti, H’yna Capt Om Prakash
Lucknow, UP Hav RP SrivastavaConvenor UP, IESM
Bhiwani, Har Hony Capt Hoshiar SinghConvenor* Bhiwani
Lucknow, UP Hav Prabhu Nath
NCRMaj (Mrs) Tomar Professional Party of India
Faridabad,Har Nk Mukesh Joshi
GG, Har W’o SM Dhaiya
Jhunjunu, Raj Sub Khyali Ram DangiConvenor* Jhunjunu
Bathinda,Punjab Hon Capt BS Bhatti Prez Ex Servicemen Assn Punjab
TN Col TN Raman Convenor IESM TN
UP Col TP Tyagi,VrC Prez Rashtriya Sainik Sanstha
K’natka Col Rajan Member core group
Kerala W/o PR Balathilken
M’dergarh, H’naW/o OP YadavConvenor* M’dergarh
Farqabd, UP Sub DS YadavConvenor* M’dergarh
Behrod, Raj Hon Capt RamnathConvenor* Behrod
GG, Har Mrs Shiksha Bhardwaj Indep; mother of Umang
Punjab Cpl KS Kumbra
Bawal, Har Capt Budh RamConvenor* Bawal
Lucknow, UP Petty O GK Awasthy
GG, Har Maj Jakhar
Hissar, Har Sub Hari SinghConvenor* Hissar
Alwar, Rajasthan Brig KartarHead IESL Rajasthan
Kharar ,Punjab Sub Maj Nirvair SinghVP IESL Mohali
Jhajjar, Haryna Capt Rathee
Thanjavur, TN Hav Santhanan
Surheti, H’yna Capt Om Prakash
Lucknow, UP Hav RP SrivastavaConvenor UP, IESM
Bhiwani, Har Hony Capt Hoshiar SinghConvenor* Bhiwani
Lucknow, UP Hav Prabhu Nath
NCRMaj (Mrs) Tomar Professional Party of India
Faridabad,Har Nk Mukesh Joshi
GG, Har W’o SM Dhaiya
Jhunjunu, Raj Sub Khyali Ram DangiConvenor* Jhunjunu
Bathinda,Punjab Hon Capt BS Bhatti Prez Ex Servicemen Assn Punjab
TN Col TN Raman Convenor IESM TN
UP Col TP Tyagi,VrC Prez Rashtriya Sainik Sanstha
K’natka Col Rajan Member core group
Beware of False Rumours Regarding our Maha Rally on 12 April
Beware of False Rumours Regarding our Maha Rally
at Jantar Mantar New Delhi
on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM
Dear Friends,
1. Some unscrupulous individuals are spreading rumours of cancellation of our Mahar Rally on 12 Apr 2009 at Jantar – Mantar a 11 AM.
2. All ESM are hereby informed to beware of such rumours and also inform everyone accordingly. Our Rally will be held at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM. All ESM across country are requested to attend and motivate others to do so. This is an event to show case our strength and unity to get Justice for Defence Personnel. Kindly attend in large numbers.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
at Jantar Mantar New Delhi
on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM
Dear Friends,
1. Some unscrupulous individuals are spreading rumours of cancellation of our Mahar Rally on 12 Apr 2009 at Jantar – Mantar a 11 AM.
2. All ESM are hereby informed to beware of such rumours and also inform everyone accordingly. Our Rally will be held at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM. All ESM across country are requested to attend and motivate others to do so. This is an event to show case our strength and unity to get Justice for Defence Personnel. Kindly attend in large numbers.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Thursday, April 9, 2009
Jantar Mantar 09 Apr 2009
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 09 Apr evening
Date: Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 9:58 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
New Membership
Thanks to Maj SR Singh, Varanasi continues with membership drive. We extend a heartful welcome to the new members:
1. Lt Col BN Rai
2. Lt Col KC Rai
3. Maj Paramanand Singh
4. Sub/Maj Ramdhir Singh
5. Sub/Maj MP Singh
6. Hany Capt TP Rai
7. H/Lt Jamwant Singh
8 .Nk Shashi Kant Singh
9. Hav Sambhu Pd Pandey
Depositing of Medals
Following veterans from Varanasi have also deposited their medals:
1. Maj Parmanad Singh
2. Lt Col KC Rai
3. Sub Umakant Yadav
4. Sub Maj MP Singh'
5. H/Lt Jamwant Singh
6. Sub Maj Randhir Singh
7. Hav Sambhu Pd Pandey
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 09 Apr evening
Date: Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 9:58 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
New Membership
Thanks to Maj SR Singh, Varanasi continues with membership drive. We extend a heartful welcome to the new members:
1. Lt Col BN Rai
2. Lt Col KC Rai
3. Maj Paramanand Singh
4. Sub/Maj Ramdhir Singh
5. Sub/Maj MP Singh
6. Hany Capt TP Rai
7. H/Lt Jamwant Singh
8 .Nk Shashi Kant Singh
9. Hav Sambhu Pd Pandey
Depositing of Medals
Following veterans from Varanasi have also deposited their medals:
1. Maj Parmanad Singh
2. Lt Col KC Rai
3. Sub Umakant Yadav
4. Sub Maj MP Singh'
5. H/Lt Jamwant Singh
6. Sub Maj Randhir Singh
7. Hav Sambhu Pd Pandey
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Tuesday, April 7, 2009
Jantar Mantar 07 April 2009
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 07 Apr evening
Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 10:19 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Our venue at Jantar Mantar remains active.
Maha Rally 12 April 2009
There is a pro-IESM wave sweeping across Northern India. Reports have been flooding in of ESM from Haryana and Rajasthan joining the Rally in large numbers irrespective of their affiliation to any other organisation. Haryana alone is expected to send 10,000 participants. Resources are being mobilised. Mrs Usha Ahlawat, w/o Late Colonel DS Ahlawat, JAT, has set the ball rolling by contributing Rs 2,100.00 for the purpose.
Voting Advisory
Views are being sent on what line to take on the issue. Gist is:
1. Going by bitter experience vis-a-vis OROP, we should be chary of trusting any Party.
2. Politics being a dangerous minefield a careful trudge is advocated.
3. Language/wording should be carefully crafted and the message diplomatically conveyed.
4. The announcement should not be a free-for-all and should be made only by the Chairman towards the end. (Our numerologist has suggested that it be done at 1420 hours on 12 April).
All the above points of view deserve respect and will be kept in mind. Consideration will also be given to:
1. The environment has been seeking a clear-cut advice.
2. Pros and cons of a mid-course two-boat-ride stance versus a clear lean without ambiguity.
3. Not overlooking the fact that though the old issue of OROP has been ditched by various parties in the past, at no time had its pursuit gathered this much steam at national level and no politician will be able to brush the issue under the carpet.
Whatever advice that is given will be with due objectivity and neutrality and based only on the interests of the ESM community.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 07 Apr evening
Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 10:19 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Our venue at Jantar Mantar remains active.
Maha Rally 12 April 2009
There is a pro-IESM wave sweeping across Northern India. Reports have been flooding in of ESM from Haryana and Rajasthan joining the Rally in large numbers irrespective of their affiliation to any other organisation. Haryana alone is expected to send 10,000 participants. Resources are being mobilised. Mrs Usha Ahlawat, w/o Late Colonel DS Ahlawat, JAT, has set the ball rolling by contributing Rs 2,100.00 for the purpose.
Voting Advisory
Views are being sent on what line to take on the issue. Gist is:
1. Going by bitter experience vis-a-vis OROP, we should be chary of trusting any Party.
2. Politics being a dangerous minefield a careful trudge is advocated.
3. Language/wording should be carefully crafted and the message diplomatically conveyed.
4. The announcement should not be a free-for-all and should be made only by the Chairman towards the end. (Our numerologist has suggested that it be done at 1420 hours on 12 April).
All the above points of view deserve respect and will be kept in mind. Consideration will also be given to:
1. The environment has been seeking a clear-cut advice.
2. Pros and cons of a mid-course two-boat-ride stance versus a clear lean without ambiguity.
3. Not overlooking the fact that though the old issue of OROP has been ditched by various parties in the past, at no time had its pursuit gathered this much steam at national level and no politician will be able to brush the issue under the carpet.
Whatever advice that is given will be with due objectivity and neutrality and based only on the interests of the ESM community.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Jantar Mantar 06 Apr 2009
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar venue continues to remain activated.
Maha Rally 12 April 2009
I have reconfirmed from Rashtra Pati Bhawan. They would be ready to receive the medals on 12 April at 1530 hours as we have requested. The President would reportedly be out of town. Based on my specific query they confirmed that she has been informed of the 12 April depositing of medals.
Delhi Police has been sensitized to the need for security in view of the prevailing scenario. I have assured them the participants would fully cooperate in enforcing security measures.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
The Jantar Mantar venue continues to remain activated.
Maha Rally 12 April 2009
I have reconfirmed from Rashtra Pati Bhawan. They would be ready to receive the medals on 12 April at 1530 hours as we have requested. The President would reportedly be out of town. Based on my specific query they confirmed that she has been informed of the 12 April depositing of medals.
Delhi Police has been sensitized to the need for security in view of the prevailing scenario. I have assured them the participants would fully cooperate in enforcing security measures.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Monday, April 6, 2009
Call for Max ESM attending 12 Apr 2009 "Maha Rally"
MISSION
JUSTICE FOR DEFENCE SERVICES
05 Apr 09.
To,
All Members And ESM Organisations
On Emailing List of "Report My Signal".
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
An email received from Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Vice Chairman IESM, with 'help call' to all ESM to muster the media support for the IESM Maha Rally on 12 Apr 09, at Jantar Mantar, is appended below.
Due all out efforts by the ESM and their contacts, the last three rallies at Jantar Mantar have been grand success due good media coverage.
We once again seek help from all the ESM to activate their contacts and ensure maximum presence of all the print and TV media.
IT IS NOW OR NEVER.
LET US ALL STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER
AND SUPPORT THE MAHA RALLY ON 12 APR
WITH ALL OUR MIGHT.
KAMYAB HONGE HUM EK DIN.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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From: satbir singh
To: Stg_Comm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: [Stg_Comm] Press Invitation for Maha Rally On 12 April 2009
Dated: 05 Apr 2009
Dear Friends,
1. Press Invitation for Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar New Delhi and return of medals to the President for the 4th time on 12 Apr 2009 at 11 AM is enclosed. May I request all ESM organizations and individual ESM who have any connection/liaison with the media to kindly arrange maximum coverage of the event and give wide publicity.
2. Friends, neither any Govt functionary has visited Jantar Mantar to talk to us nor has the UPA Govt accepted our long pending demand of One Rank One Pension. This unfair and unjust attitude of the Govt is causing us extreme anguish and dismay. One of the reasons the politicians and bureaucrats give, is that we have no Voting Power. We therefore, need to intensify our Movement to not only press for our demands but also showcase our “power of the Votes”.
3. Maximum ESM organizations and individual ESM across the country are therefore requested to attend the Maha Rally on 12th Apr 09 at Jantar Mantar New Delhi positively. We should resolve to ensure that in the coming Lok Sabha Elections, only those political parties and individuals will get Defence Personnel Votes who will “Restore our status, respect and accept our demands”. The collective whole of Defence Personnel both serving and veterans must showcase our “Power of the Vote” in such a way that Governments here after give us our due Justice.
4. Every ESM organization and individual ESM who receive this mail must forward it to as many ESM as possible and also give wide publicity. Please motivate others to attend the Rally on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM. You should also request our dependents and supporters to attend the Rally and make it a grand success.
5. IESM is the Movement of all ESM across the country. Friends, numbers matter. May I therefore, request all ESM organizations and individual ESM to become members of IESM at the earliest.
“JE TUJHE MUJHE MILAN KA CHAO SIR DHAR
TALI GALI MERI AAO”.
“SAR FIROSHI KI TAMMNA AB” HAMARE DIL ME HAI.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
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Invitation
Dated: 05 Apr 2009
Ex-Servicemen Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi and Return of Medals To the President for the 4th Time on 12 April 2009 at 11 AM
Dear Members of the Media,
1. Today is the 112th day of protest at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi by the Ex Servicemen. Neither any Govt functionary has visited Jantar Mantar to talk to the Ex Servicemen nor has the UPA Govt accepted their long pending demand of One Rank One Pension. It was also surprising to know that the President was not informed of our having deposited medals on 8th and 21st Feb 2009 and that we had sought audience with her.
2. One of the reasons often heard and perceived for Govt neglect of the serving and retired Defence Personnel is that they have no “voting power”. This unfair and unjust attitude of the Govt has triggered an unprecedented wave of disaffection across the entire Armed Forces, particularly the Ex servicemen who have decided to intensify their Movement throughout the country.
3. Towards this end a Maha Rally will be held at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi on 12 April 2009 at 11 AM. Ex Servicemen, their dependents and supporters in large numbers from across the country will attend the Rally. Senior Officers in large numbers including former Chiefs are likely to attend the Rally.
4. We are glad that one major Political Party BJP has finally realised the contribution of the Defence Personnel to the Nation and has included implementation of One Rank One Pension and other commitments favourable to the Defence Services and the Ex Servicemen in their manifesto.
5. The aim of our Maha Rally is to showcase our “power of the Vote” as also to deposit medals to the Supreme Commander for the fourth time, to express our deep anguish and dismay at our continuing neglect by the present Govt. After the Rally, a delegation of Ex servicemen will take the medals to the Rashtrapati Bhavan for handing over to the President at 3.30 PM.
6. You are requested to cover the event on 12 April 2009 from 11 AM to 3.30 PM at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
JUSTICE FOR DEFENCE SERVICES
05 Apr 09.
To,
All Members And ESM Organisations
On Emailing List of "Report My Signal".
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
An email received from Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Vice Chairman IESM, with 'help call' to all ESM to muster the media support for the IESM Maha Rally on 12 Apr 09, at Jantar Mantar, is appended below.
Due all out efforts by the ESM and their contacts, the last three rallies at Jantar Mantar have been grand success due good media coverage.
We once again seek help from all the ESM to activate their contacts and ensure maximum presence of all the print and TV media.
IT IS NOW OR NEVER.
LET US ALL STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER
AND SUPPORT THE MAHA RALLY ON 12 APR
WITH ALL OUR MIGHT.
KAMYAB HONGE HUM EK DIN.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
---------------
From: satbir singh
To: Stg_Comm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: [Stg_Comm] Press Invitation for Maha Rally On 12 April 2009
Dated: 05 Apr 2009
Dear Friends,
1. Press Invitation for Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar New Delhi and return of medals to the President for the 4th time on 12 Apr 2009 at 11 AM is enclosed. May I request all ESM organizations and individual ESM who have any connection/liaison with the media to kindly arrange maximum coverage of the event and give wide publicity.
2. Friends, neither any Govt functionary has visited Jantar Mantar to talk to us nor has the UPA Govt accepted our long pending demand of One Rank One Pension. This unfair and unjust attitude of the Govt is causing us extreme anguish and dismay. One of the reasons the politicians and bureaucrats give, is that we have no Voting Power. We therefore, need to intensify our Movement to not only press for our demands but also showcase our “power of the Votes”.
3. Maximum ESM organizations and individual ESM across the country are therefore requested to attend the Maha Rally on 12th Apr 09 at Jantar Mantar New Delhi positively. We should resolve to ensure that in the coming Lok Sabha Elections, only those political parties and individuals will get Defence Personnel Votes who will “Restore our status, respect and accept our demands”. The collective whole of Defence Personnel both serving and veterans must showcase our “Power of the Vote” in such a way that Governments here after give us our due Justice.
4. Every ESM organization and individual ESM who receive this mail must forward it to as many ESM as possible and also give wide publicity. Please motivate others to attend the Rally on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM. You should also request our dependents and supporters to attend the Rally and make it a grand success.
5. IESM is the Movement of all ESM across the country. Friends, numbers matter. May I therefore, request all ESM organizations and individual ESM to become members of IESM at the earliest.
“JE TUJHE MUJHE MILAN KA CHAO SIR DHAR
TALI GALI MERI AAO”.
“SAR FIROSHI KI TAMMNA AB” HAMARE DIL ME HAI.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
...............
Invitation
Dated: 05 Apr 2009
Ex-Servicemen Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi and Return of Medals To the President for the 4th Time on 12 April 2009 at 11 AM
Dear Members of the Media,
1. Today is the 112th day of protest at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi by the Ex Servicemen. Neither any Govt functionary has visited Jantar Mantar to talk to the Ex Servicemen nor has the UPA Govt accepted their long pending demand of One Rank One Pension. It was also surprising to know that the President was not informed of our having deposited medals on 8th and 21st Feb 2009 and that we had sought audience with her.
2. One of the reasons often heard and perceived for Govt neglect of the serving and retired Defence Personnel is that they have no “voting power”. This unfair and unjust attitude of the Govt has triggered an unprecedented wave of disaffection across the entire Armed Forces, particularly the Ex servicemen who have decided to intensify their Movement throughout the country.
3. Towards this end a Maha Rally will be held at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi on 12 April 2009 at 11 AM. Ex Servicemen, their dependents and supporters in large numbers from across the country will attend the Rally. Senior Officers in large numbers including former Chiefs are likely to attend the Rally.
4. We are glad that one major Political Party BJP has finally realised the contribution of the Defence Personnel to the Nation and has included implementation of One Rank One Pension and other commitments favourable to the Defence Services and the Ex Servicemen in their manifesto.
5. The aim of our Maha Rally is to showcase our “power of the Vote” as also to deposit medals to the Supreme Commander for the fourth time, to express our deep anguish and dismay at our continuing neglect by the present Govt. After the Rally, a delegation of Ex servicemen will take the medals to the Rashtrapati Bhavan for handing over to the President at 3.30 PM.
6. You are requested to cover the event on 12 April 2009 from 11 AM to 3.30 PM at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi.
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
BJP's manifesto Shot in the arm...4 Apr 2009
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 04 Apr evening
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in ; TRUNCATED
Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 10:21 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
BJP Manifesto
More details of BJP manifesto are now known. The 49-page document has material relevant to us on Pages 15-16. A Regimental Brigadier I ran into during the evening walk, has two sons in the Army. He tells me of celebrations their unit officers are already having on the income tax exemption. Even though officer-centric (now may also cover JCOs after 6th PC), it is a great psychological shot in the arm.
For the veterans, the most significant line is at Para 3 (d) of the Section titled ‘DEFENDING INDIA No Compromise, No Concession’. It reads – “The principle of one rank, one pension will be implemented.”
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 04 Apr evening
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in ; TRUNCATED
Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 10:21 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
BJP Manifesto
More details of BJP manifesto are now known. The 49-page document has material relevant to us on Pages 15-16. A Regimental Brigadier I ran into during the evening walk, has two sons in the Army. He tells me of celebrations their unit officers are already having on the income tax exemption. Even though officer-centric (now may also cover JCOs after 6th PC), it is a great psychological shot in the arm.
For the veterans, the most significant line is at Para 3 (d) of the Section titled ‘DEFENDING INDIA No Compromise, No Concession’. It reads – “The principle of one rank, one pension will be implemented.”
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Friday, April 3, 2009
Jantar Mantar..and Maha Rally on 12 Apr 2009
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 02 Apr evening
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)" kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in ; TRUNCATED
Date: Thursday, 2 April, 2009, 9:13 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
Maha Rally on 12 Apr 2009
It is again clarified that, irrespective of the IESL keeping away, the planned Maha rally will be held at Jantar Mantar from 1100 to 1430 hours on Sunday, 12 April 2009. At the end of the rally, as before, a party will proceed to deposit the medals at the Rashtra Pati Bhawan. It is still to be known whether the Supreme Commander herself would be in station.
It is also clarified that the medals are only being deposited. We intend taking these back once our demand for OROP is met. In this connection a scanned copy of a letter written by Rashtra Pati Bhawan to the Ministry of Defence is attached, which clarifies our position.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
Gurgaon- 122 001
Tele: 91+124-4015262
+91 9811226676
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THE END
Wednesday, April 1, 2009
Jantar Mantar...One hundred and sixth day
From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 01 Apr evening
Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 10:22 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar remains active.
Unity Efforts run Aground
The IESL-IESM joining up is under strain. You may recall the meeting we had in IESL HQ at 1830 hours on 27 Mar 2009. This had been scheduled after the IESL President had clarified on 26 Mar that there was no ‘lakshman rekha’ in the methods adopted to achieve our goal. The 27 Mar meeting was on request of IESL, including Brig RK Gulia, and the place, the time and the date were as suggested by him. Despite less than 24 hours notice, ten members of IESM Core Gp came for the meeting. Unfortunately, Brig Gulia did not attend himself. Reportedly, he was busy in the adjoining room with his AGM. Quite a few of our Core Gp members objected to his absence, both on grounds of propriety and practicality. Even though I was myself surprised and shared their concern, I played coolant by telling all that there must be some genuine compulsion that Brig Gulia could not attend.
During the meeting, Col Verma, Senior Vice President, Maj Gen Radhakrishnan, President Tamil Nadu ESL, Brig Kartar Singh, President Rajasthan ESL, Brig Nath, President Andhra Pradesh ESL and Col Janu, Governing Body member were present. Since Brig Gulia was himself not attending, it was a logical inference that his Senior Vice President and others had been empowered to take decisions. To assume otherwise would have rendered the whole exercise of sitting there meaningless. The decisions taken have already been included in the sitrep on 27 Mar 09. The extract:
1. There was ‘in principle’ agreement that the two would henceforth work together.
2. Each can retain its identity and fly its own flag for joint gatherings.
3. The four core demands of the IESM would form the common minimum programme.
4. The IESL agreed to join the 12 April rally at Jantar Mantar. An event-specific joint task force was constituted comprising four members from either side to button up details.
5. Depositing of medals (that the IESM is planning to do again on 12 April) was left to individuals’ choice.
It is noteworthy that the point about depositing of medals was discussed and it was decided that it be left to individuals.
On 28 Mar the members from both sides met to discuss the nitty-gritty. There were some issues of difference but nothing substantial.
Brig Gulia spoke to me on 29 March when I was on my way to Mathura. He expressed difficulty on two accounts: in sharing expenses and in attending the rally that was going to deposit medals. I told him that the first issue was resolvable. On the second issue I clearly told that we had already returned medals thrice and this is the format we have been following and would continue to follow. I also pointed out that this point was not raised in 27 Mar meeting. He kept repeating “aap dekh lena” .
Two other developments are significant. I attended the Jhajjar rally on 28 Mar and Mathura/Agra rally the next day. In Jhajjar the organizers told me that there had been a caveat from Col VK Singh of the IESL asking their members not to attend the rally. In Mathura the anchor Col Vikram Singh told me that there had been a caveat issued on 29 Mar by Brig Solanki in Meerut asking IESL members to keep away. While such reports had been coming in regularly for the last one year, I never took notice. And notice I did not take even this time. However, this ran counter to the spirit of the 27 Mar meeting and could possibly raise doubts on whether there was a disconnect between declarations and intent.
On 31 Mar Maj Gen Radhakrishnan (President TN ESL) came on a to-and-fro visit from Karnal and we met on his request. I admire his total sincerity in trying to bring the two organizations together. We had a long and detailed discussion. Some of the points that came up were (his points shown in Blue):
1. There is a strong belief that the representation through proper channel will in due course lead to OROP.
I pointed out that for the last 25 years various IESL Presidents had been making representations without OROP being sanctioned, and it cannot be
said that all of them were mere push-overs. Besides, facts run counter to such a belief; govt has already rejected OROP in Parliament.
2. There was an impression based on dialogue between the IESL delegates and the Secretary ESW that there is a positive change of perception on the
OROP.
I raised a flag of caution against such misplaced optimism and warned against falling into the trap of honey talk. Contextually speaking, I mentioned
that during our meeting on 14 Jan 09, after being briefed on OROP the Secretary ESW had remarked that till that day he had not understood OROP
and that now he did. Gen Radha looked wide-eyed in disbelief and disclosed that the Secretary had used these very words in IESL HQ on 27 March.
3. He said that while he does not see any policy change granting OROP immediately, but something substantial is likely to be announced. Continuing, he
talked of correction of an error in pension calculations due to the misinterpretation of the policy by the concerned officials.
My take was that we are not looking for corrections and compensations but a principle-based OROP decision.
4. He appealed that I reconsider the sentiments of the President IESL and find a mutually agreeable compromise.
While agreeing to a spirit of accommodation, I underscored depositing of medals being the raison d’être of IESM approach and expressed my
inability to compromise on it. I also pointed out that IESL insistence that we drop this crucial element from our efforts amounted to IESL wanting
to put conditionality for working together.
Gen Radhakrishnan resolved to continue his efforts at the unity till the last minute. I genuinely wished him success.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
Gurgaon- 122 001
Tele: 91+124-4015262
+91 9811226676
------------
THE END
Subject: ESM fast sitrep 01 Apr evening
Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 10:22 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar remains active.
Unity Efforts run Aground
The IESL-IESM joining up is under strain. You may recall the meeting we had in IESL HQ at 1830 hours on 27 Mar 2009. This had been scheduled after the IESL President had clarified on 26 Mar that there was no ‘lakshman rekha’ in the methods adopted to achieve our goal. The 27 Mar meeting was on request of IESL, including Brig RK Gulia, and the place, the time and the date were as suggested by him. Despite less than 24 hours notice, ten members of IESM Core Gp came for the meeting. Unfortunately, Brig Gulia did not attend himself. Reportedly, he was busy in the adjoining room with his AGM. Quite a few of our Core Gp members objected to his absence, both on grounds of propriety and practicality. Even though I was myself surprised and shared their concern, I played coolant by telling all that there must be some genuine compulsion that Brig Gulia could not attend.
During the meeting, Col Verma, Senior Vice President, Maj Gen Radhakrishnan, President Tamil Nadu ESL, Brig Kartar Singh, President Rajasthan ESL, Brig Nath, President Andhra Pradesh ESL and Col Janu, Governing Body member were present. Since Brig Gulia was himself not attending, it was a logical inference that his Senior Vice President and others had been empowered to take decisions. To assume otherwise would have rendered the whole exercise of sitting there meaningless. The decisions taken have already been included in the sitrep on 27 Mar 09. The extract:
1. There was ‘in principle’ agreement that the two would henceforth work together.
2. Each can retain its identity and fly its own flag for joint gatherings.
3. The four core demands of the IESM would form the common minimum programme.
4. The IESL agreed to join the 12 April rally at Jantar Mantar. An event-specific joint task force was constituted comprising four members from either side to button up details.
5. Depositing of medals (that the IESM is planning to do again on 12 April) was left to individuals’ choice.
It is noteworthy that the point about depositing of medals was discussed and it was decided that it be left to individuals.
On 28 Mar the members from both sides met to discuss the nitty-gritty. There were some issues of difference but nothing substantial.
Brig Gulia spoke to me on 29 March when I was on my way to Mathura. He expressed difficulty on two accounts: in sharing expenses and in attending the rally that was going to deposit medals. I told him that the first issue was resolvable. On the second issue I clearly told that we had already returned medals thrice and this is the format we have been following and would continue to follow. I also pointed out that this point was not raised in 27 Mar meeting. He kept repeating “aap dekh lena” .
Two other developments are significant. I attended the Jhajjar rally on 28 Mar and Mathura/Agra rally the next day. In Jhajjar the organizers told me that there had been a caveat from Col VK Singh of the IESL asking their members not to attend the rally. In Mathura the anchor Col Vikram Singh told me that there had been a caveat issued on 29 Mar by Brig Solanki in Meerut asking IESL members to keep away. While such reports had been coming in regularly for the last one year, I never took notice. And notice I did not take even this time. However, this ran counter to the spirit of the 27 Mar meeting and could possibly raise doubts on whether there was a disconnect between declarations and intent.
On 31 Mar Maj Gen Radhakrishnan (President TN ESL) came on a to-and-fro visit from Karnal and we met on his request. I admire his total sincerity in trying to bring the two organizations together. We had a long and detailed discussion. Some of the points that came up were (his points shown in Blue):
1. There is a strong belief that the representation through proper channel will in due course lead to OROP.
I pointed out that for the last 25 years various IESL Presidents had been making representations without OROP being sanctioned, and it cannot be
said that all of them were mere push-overs. Besides, facts run counter to such a belief; govt has already rejected OROP in Parliament.
2. There was an impression based on dialogue between the IESL delegates and the Secretary ESW that there is a positive change of perception on the
OROP.
I raised a flag of caution against such misplaced optimism and warned against falling into the trap of honey talk. Contextually speaking, I mentioned
that during our meeting on 14 Jan 09, after being briefed on OROP the Secretary ESW had remarked that till that day he had not understood OROP
and that now he did. Gen Radha looked wide-eyed in disbelief and disclosed that the Secretary had used these very words in IESL HQ on 27 March.
3. He said that while he does not see any policy change granting OROP immediately, but something substantial is likely to be announced. Continuing, he
talked of correction of an error in pension calculations due to the misinterpretation of the policy by the concerned officials.
My take was that we are not looking for corrections and compensations but a principle-based OROP decision.
4. He appealed that I reconsider the sentiments of the President IESL and find a mutually agreeable compromise.
While agreeing to a spirit of accommodation, I underscored depositing of medals being the raison d’être of IESM approach and expressed my
inability to compromise on it. I also pointed out that IESL insistence that we drop this crucial element from our efforts amounted to IESL wanting
to put conditionality for working together.
Gen Radhakrishnan resolved to continue his efforts at the unity till the last minute. I genuinely wished him success.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
Gurgaon- 122 001
Tele: 91+124-4015262
+91 9811226676
------------
THE END
Jantar Mantar ..One hundred and fifth day
Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 10:23 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
Media Coverage
Col Vikram Singh, who had anchored the Mathura visit Mar 29, called up to say that there has been extensive media coverage of the event. The worried Congress candidate there called him up on our remarks that:
1. No government leader has thus far come to Jantar Mantar to talk to us.
2. The President on 9 Mar 2009 told us that she had not been informed that we had already deposited the medals twice.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Google Translation: English>>Hindi
तिथि: मंगलवार, 31 मार्च, 2009, 10:23
प्रिय साथियों,
इस जंतर मंतर सक्रिय रहने के लिए जारी है.
मीडिया कवरेज
कर्नल विक्रम सिंह, जो इस यात्रा 29 मार्च, मथुरा फोन किया कि इस घटना का व्यापक मीडिया कवरेज कर दिया गया है कहने के लिए मुरलीधरन था. यह चिंता कांग्रेस उम्मीदवार वहाँ हमारी टिप्पणी पर उसे फोन किया कि:
1. कोई सरकार नेता इस प्रकार दूर जंतर मंतर (Jantar Mantar) को हमसे बात करने के लिए आ गया है.
2. राष्ट्रपति पर 9 मार्च 2009 है कि वह है कि हम पहले से ही दो बार पदक जमा था सूचित नहीं किया गया था हमें बताया.
सादर,
लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
अध्यक्ष भारतीय भूतपूर्व सैनिक आंदोलन (IESM)
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
Media Coverage
Col Vikram Singh, who had anchored the Mathura visit Mar 29, called up to say that there has been extensive media coverage of the event. The worried Congress candidate there called him up on our remarks that:
1. No government leader has thus far come to Jantar Mantar to talk to us.
2. The President on 9 Mar 2009 told us that she had not been informed that we had already deposited the medals twice.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Google Translation: English>>Hindi
तिथि: मंगलवार, 31 मार्च, 2009, 10:23
प्रिय साथियों,
इस जंतर मंतर सक्रिय रहने के लिए जारी है.
मीडिया कवरेज
कर्नल विक्रम सिंह, जो इस यात्रा 29 मार्च, मथुरा फोन किया कि इस घटना का व्यापक मीडिया कवरेज कर दिया गया है कहने के लिए मुरलीधरन था. यह चिंता कांग्रेस उम्मीदवार वहाँ हमारी टिप्पणी पर उसे फोन किया कि:
1. कोई सरकार नेता इस प्रकार दूर जंतर मंतर (Jantar Mantar) को हमसे बात करने के लिए आ गया है.
2. राष्ट्रपति पर 9 मार्च 2009 है कि वह है कि हम पहले से ही दो बार पदक जमा था सूचित नहीं किया गया था हमें बताया.
सादर,
लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
अध्यक्ष भारतीय भूतपूर्व सैनिक आंदोलन (IESM)
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