Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Joint mtg on 16 Nov..OROP

From: raj kadyan
Sent: 25 October 2010 22:31
Subject: Joint mtg on 16 Nov

Dear Colleagues,

OROP concerns all of us. Each ESM organization has been fighting for it in its own way. There is no gainsaying that a collective heave can achieve more and also faster. To work out a joint approach, a meeting has been scheduled at 1100 hours on 16 November 2010 in AVCC, Sector-37, at NOIDA. Heads of all ESM organizations, and/or their Secretaries General are requested to attend. We will have an open agenda covering all contemporary nuances concerning OROP and to work out a way forward. All concerned are requested to make it convenient to attend.
Lunch will be arranged. Do kindly convey to Veteran Vinod Gandhi by 10 Nov 2010 the names of those attending.
There was Infantry Lunch today in the Infantry Hostel in Delhi Cantt. It was attended by a very large number of veterans and serving officers. There was interaction with dozens of them. It was heartening to note that each one without exception appreciated and supported the work being done by the IESM for the welfare of veterans.

Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM


ON 28 AND 29 OCT 2010
From: Vinod Gandhi
Sent: 26 October 2010 15:20
To: IESM GROUP; mil; indianveterans
Cc: Bhanwar Singh Hav Rathore
Subject: [IESM_Group:16] Pension Adalat By CGDA on 28 Oct at Alwar

Dear All

A delegation of IESM met CGDA Sh Nand Kishor on 25 Oct 2010 at 1530h. Many points pertaining to difficulty in pension calculations, pension disbursement were discussed. The detail of the discussion will be issued shortly.

However it has been confirmed by the CGDA that they have been regularly holding pension adalats to solve problems of ex-servicemen on the spot. So CGDA has held 100 pension adalats and have helped many ex-servicemen. Last adalat was held at Bangalore on 30/31 Aug 2010.

It is for the information of all that the next Pension Adalat of CGDA will be held at Army Public School Alwar on 28 and 29 Oct 2010. The adalat will assemble at 1000h onwards on both days.

All the exservicemen/widows living in and around alwar can take help of CGDA staff in finding a solution to their pension problems. It is important to take following documents with you for getting on the spot solution from the CGDA staff. Representative from the Banks will also be available in the Adalat.
Original PPO
Pension/ discharge book of the veteran.
Some document to confirm your address.
Some document to confirm your date of birth, like driving licence, election id card, Identity card issued by services, identity card issued by soldier sainik board or any document supporting and giving your date of birth.
In case of widows same documents must be carried to the adalat.
All are requested to take advantage of the adalat and solve your problems.


Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222

Tuesday, October 19, 2010

IESM: Same Rank and Same Service are the main criteria for Pension Parity

Dear Colleagues,

There have been a large number of emails from the members giving differing perceptions almost on each subject. These are all useful inputs to arrive at balanced decisions.
I would like to reiterate the following points:

There seems some doubt on grant of OROP. It is clarified for the information of all that other than the Service Chiefs and Army Commanders/equivalents, no one from a Sepoy to Lt Gen is in receipt of OROP.

There are quite a few emails giving different versions of the definition of OROP. These are all justified. However, let us keep in mind that these points are essentially officer-centric. For JCOs, NCOs and Sepoys that form the vast majority of ESM, rank and total service can be applied without difficulty. It may be prudent on our part to avoid creating an impression that we are concerned about the officer corps only.

Some ESM have expressed an apprehension that we must clearly specify what we mean or imply by OROP, or else the officialdom will shoot us down because of this perceived lack of clarity. I suggest let us first focus on OROP as a concept. Once we get the government to agree, details will follow and we have enough experts to work out the nitty-gritty in a manner that the majority benefits. We continue with ‘same rank and same length of service’ as the twin criteria for OROP.
It is empirically known that depositing of medals has been one of the most effective methods of pressing our OROP demand. This is evident from the repeated hints by the government through their representatives that we must not return medals. (The latest such advice from the government came to Shri Satpal Maharaj, MP who had headed the recent Parliamentary Committee on Defence that had recommended grant of OROP). We need to reinforce this success and motivate more of our colleagues to volunteer to collect and deposit their medals. Our next visit to the Rashtrapati Bhawan for this purpose is scheduled on Sunday, 28 November 2010 when the Parliament will be in session.
I had written a letter to the Defence Minister on 03 April 2010. One of the points made by me was:
“Since the Government has already accepted constitution of a separate pay commission for the Defence Services – which has a bearing on the pensions – you may kindly consider constituting such a pay commission right now instead of waiting another six years for the 7th Pay Commission.”
The MoD has replied the letter on 22 Sep 2010. Their response is:
“Constitution of Separate Pay Commission
“I am directed to refer your letter dated 03rd April 2010 on the above subject and to state that it is too early to consider setting up of another Pay Commission for Armed Forces because of the fact that 6th PC recommendations have been implemented recently.
Yours faithfully,
(Naveen Kumar)
Director (AG)”

Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM

Sunday, October 17, 2010

Donations by Veterans for IESM by Wg Cdr CK Sharma

Dear All
IESM, as you are aware, is a tri-service organization and veterans from Army, Navy and Air Force as members. IESM also has many regional veteran organizations on its membership rolls as Associate Members. As on date, IESM has approximately 8500 Life Members and around 4000 Associate Members.
IESM is a registered society with The Registrar of Societies Gurgaon, Haryana.
By the laws that govern Registered Societies, any money that IESM gets as one-time-lifetime subscription is NOT permitted to be utilised for any expenditure for a period of 5 years (till 2013). The funds received by IESM under the head of Subscription are kept in Fixed Deposit.
A resolution at the AGM may permit usage of 15% of these funds in an emergency. IESM have NOT used this clause so far. Day-to-day expenditure of the organization is to be run from either the donations received or from any interest earned on FDs.
As per the Audited Balance Sheet on 31st August 2010, the present FDs are of Rs 19 lakhs. Interest earned on these FDs was about 1.27 lakhs.
This is the reason why IESM does not incur any expenditure on rent for office, office equipment or furniture. All office bearers are operating from their residences and no emoluments are paid to any office bearer except one clerk.
The only expenditure being incurred is on the meetings and rallies. Each rally requires an expenditure of roughly Rs 2 lakhs.
IESM had received sufficient donations to arrange demonstrations and rallies to press for the demand of OROP in the first two years, ie 2008 and 2009. However, donations for the year 2010 have dwindled and IESM has received only a fraction as compared to last year. IESM is finding it difficult to continue with planned protests without adequate funds. IESM therefore is in need of funds to continue with the fight of the veterans with the Govt.
IESM made a fervent appeal to the veterans for the donations. Following veterans have committed donations in response:
1. Col LK Anand Rs 500/month
2. Col A Mehndiratta Rs 500/month
3. CPO SB Sharma Rs 300/month
4. Col AS Ahluwalia Rs 500/month
5. Veteran Kulvinder Rs 500/month
6. Gp Capt VK Vidyadhar Rs 100/month (Recd Rs 1,500 for 15 months)
7. Wg Cdr Raj Kumar Poonia Rs 500/month
8. Col Navin Chaudhary Rs 100/month (Recd Rs 1,200 for one year)
9. Brig MS Oberoi Rs 100/month
10. Sqn Ldr DK Nangia Rs 100/month (Recd Rs 2,000 for 20 months)
11. Lt Col JP Nauni Rs 200/month

One-Time Donations:
1. Wg Cdr VK Sethi Rs 1,000
2. Maj Gen Anil Sawhney Rs 5,000
3. Brig HS Sandhu Rs 5,000
4. Lt Col Rakesh Sachdev Rs 20,000
5. Gp Capt (anonymous) Rs 5,000
6. Maj Gen IJS Dhillon Rs 5,000
7. Brig CS Kamboj Rs 1,00,000
8. IRB Infra Developers Ltd Rs10,000 courtesy Brig Malik
9. Air Cmde MK Chandrasekhar Rs 1000

IESM welcomes any amount as donation from veterans.
All veterans are requested to come forward and contribute in the struggle for their honor and respect and of course their cherished dream of OROP. A special request is made to the veterans who hold important positions in private companies, to try and ask their companies to donate generously for IESM.
For those who may wish to support IESM, you can give the donation in any one of the following methods that is convenient for you:
· Send a cheque in favour of "Indian Ex Serviceman Movement" at any given periodicity to me at the address given in my signature block below.
· Deposit the Cheque directly to the IESM account and send the Deposit Slip to me.
· Do the transaction over the internet through net-banking and inform me of the details every time you do that OR
· Give standing instructions to your Bank for a fixed date-every-month pay-in into IESM account -- and inform us the exact instructions, to enable keeping track of the funds.
· For EACH Donation, please do fill up the attached form and send to me by email ASAP.
Details of the Bank account are:
Name of Account: Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
Account No: 06162000001330
Name of Bank: HDFC Bank
Nine Digit MICR Code of Bank: 110240109
IFSC Code No (for e-transfer): HDFC 0000616
Postal Address of Bank: Palam Vihar Branch, SCO 87, Gurgaon
IESM will issue a receipt for all donations under Section 80G, which would afford a set-off against Income Tax payable every year. This receipt would be issued once in a financial year for the sake of administrative convenience.
I am sure all the veterans will come forward and be counted in this, their struggle for honor and the cherished dream of OROP.
Let us all together convert shove into a heave and move the mountain!


Sunshine & Blue Skies!

Wg Cdr CK Sharma (Retd)
Treasurer, IESM

N-15 1st Floor
Greater Kailash 1
New Delhi – 110 048

Sunday, October 10, 2010

Request for Donations ..Gp capt VK gandhi Gen Secy

From: Vinod Gandhi []
Sent: October-10-10 12:44 AM
To: Darshan Nangia; CK Sharma; mil; indianveterans
Cc: Kamboj cs; LALIT KUMAR COL ANAND; ajay Col mehndiratta; Vaidun Gp Capt Vidyadhar; DSOI Canada
Subject: Shortage of Funds. REQUEST FOR DONATIONS

Dear Veteran Nangia sir

I am reproducing my mail to environment about the funds required by IESM to continue with the struggle for OROP. Based on the appeal following veterans have very kindly donated to IESM and more are coming forward.

Col LK Anand 500/per month
Col A Mehnidratta 500/per month
Veteran Kulvinder 500/ per month
Gp Capt V Vidyadhar 100/per month
I thank all of them for this kind gesture and appeal to other veterans to come forward and help IESM. IESM is planning AGM and elections to the Gov Body on 27 Nov 2010 and a rally on the 28 Nov 2010 to press for the demand of OROP. The approximate expenditure for these two events is likely to be around 5 lacs.

Admin arrangement on 27 Nov (Booking chareges for venue and tentage) 50000/
Lunch for participants (expected strenghth 500 lunch Rs 120 per person) 60000/
Arrangements for election on 27 Nov 10000/
Admin arrangements for Rally on 28 Nov 2010 50000/
Part Travel reimbursement for the participants for the rally on 28 Nov 2010 150000/
Lunch for participants (expected strength 5000 lunch at 25 per person) 125000/
Tea and water arrangement at AGM and rally 25000/
Total 470000

IESM is looking for the sponsors who would like to donate for IESM or else would like to sponsor any of the event full or part.


Dear Veteran Kulvinder Singh

Your donation of Rs 500/ per month for two years to IESM is a big help and will harden our resolve to fight for the right of veterans and OROP for all veterans. t\Thankyou very much for the donation. I am sure many more veterans' would follow you and donate generously for the IESM. Earlier also following veterans have donated Rs 500/ per month to IESM.
Col LK Anand Rs 500/per month
Col A Mehnidiratta Rs 500/ per month

I take this opportunity to request all veterans' to kindly open your heart and help IESM to fight for the injustice being meted out to all veterans by the Govt. Veterans can help in volunteering physically to attend all the rallies organized by IESM and most effectively DONATE GENEROUSLY FOR IESM. Treasurer will get touch with you soon on the issue and to streamline the procedure.

IESM is in need of lot of funds to plan larger rallies and demonstrations to press for the demands of veterans'. IT IS ONCE AGAIN EMPHASIZED THAT ALL RALLIES PLANNED BY THE IESM WOULD REMAIN NON VIOLENT, PEACEFUL AND WILL BE WITHIN THE LAW OF THE LAND.


Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222

Monday, October 4, 2010



on 27 Nov 2010, Saturday at 1030h at AVCC sector 37 NOIDA

Dear All

AGM of IESM wil be held on 27 Nov 2010 Saturday from 1030 hours to 1400 hours at AVCC, Sector 37 Noida 201301.

Election to the Governing body of the IESM will also be held on 27 Nov 2010 Saturday at AVCC Noida immediately after AGM.

Agenda for the meeting is given below.
Welcome by Gen Sec
Address by Chairman.
To receive, consider and adopt the audited Balance Sheet as on 31 March 2010, Income & Expenditure Account for the period ended on that date and the Auditor’s Report thereon.
To appoint auditors for the year 2010-2011.
Address by the Chairman
Discussion on the points raised by the members if any.
Elections for the Gov Body of IESM
Closing address by the new Chairman
Vote of thanks.

All members are requested to attend the meeting and send their confirmation of attendance to the Gen Sec at the earliest.
All members are requested to make own arrangement for travel and stay at Noida/Delhi. Members are requested to forward their points for inclusion in the agenda.

Duly audited account statement of year 09-10 will be forwarded to all as soon as it is cleared by the auditors.

Guidelines with a guide map to reach AVCC Noida is attached for the convenience of all members.


The existing governing body of IESM has completed two years in the office. As per MOA term of the Governing Body is due to be completed in Dec 2010, It has been therefore decided that the election to the Governing Body of IESM will be held immediately after the AGM on 27 Nov 2010 by the General body of IESM.

Independent Chief election officer will be nominated. He would choose his team of election officers to conduct free and fair elections. Name of the Chief election officer and his team would be announced soon to the environment.

Schedule for the election is given below. All members of the IESM are eligible to contest the election. A fee of Rs 100 is fixed to file members' name for election. Election will be held for 17 posts of the Governing body. Elected members of the GOV body will then choose the Chairman, VC, Treasurer, Gen Sec and Jt sec with in one week of the elections.

Eligibility criteria for the elections; All members of the IESM are eligible to contest elections
Notice for the election 30 Sep 2010 (Email) to 7 Oct 2010 (By post)
Filing of nomination papers 1 Nov 2010
Checking of nomination papers 4 Nov 2010
Withdrawal of names 4 Nov 2010
Circulation of names of candidates 10 Nov 2010
Election to the Governing body 27 Nov 2010
Declaration of the result 1700h on 27 Nov 2010
Nomination form will be sent to the memberes interested to contest elections.

All members are requested to inform other members of IESM who do not have access to internet. Please spread the message to all veterans'.


Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222

Friday, October 1, 2010

Meeting woth CGDA on 14 Oct 2010

Dear members of the Governing Body

1. A meeting has been fixed with CGDA on 14 Oct 2010 at 3.30 PM. My mail to CGDA is enclosed. Kindly suggest agenda points.

2. May I request Gen Renjen to kindly coordinate the agenda points? We need forward the same to CGDA well in advance.

With Regards,

Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,

Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email :