Subject: MINUTES OF SOUTH ZONE MILITARY VETERANS MEET AT BANGALORE ON SUNDAY, 27 JUNE 2010.
MINUTES OF
SOUTH ZONE MILITARY VETERANS MEET HELD AT BANQUET HALL,
VIDHAN SOUDHA, BANGALORE ON SUNDAY 27 JUNE 2010
EXPRESSION OF GRATITUDE
WE the Veterans of Karnataka wish to place on record our sincere thanks and expression of our gratitude to Dr VS Acharya, the Hon’ble Home Minister of Karnataka, Capt Ganesh Karnik, MLC and Deputy Chairman NRI Forum Karnataka for all their help, assistance & unstinted support to the Ex-Servicemen. We are also thankful & grateful to Col CR Sundar, CEO & MD, JAWAN TV and Mrs Sundar for being so very gracious to extend total coverage to the South Zone Ex-Servicemen Meet and to Brig MS Parthasarathy for excellent photographic coverage.
1. Colonel SS Rajan, the Convenor of the South Zone Military Veterans Meet in his opening address welcomed Ex-Servicemen (350-400) who had gathered from the four Southern States and also those from Delhi and the States of J&K, Maharashtra, Assam, Meghalaya & Tripura; and said that The South Zone Military Veterans Meet has been called with following aims:
(a) Strengthen IESM by spreading IESM far & wide, to all States, right down to Dists, Taluks and small towns & villages.
(b) Adoption of a Federal Structure. The Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) is an All India Federation of Ex Servicemen's organizations; and, an Umbrella Body and hence it is strongly recommended that we adopt a Federal Structure, ie. be a true Federation, with each State having its own IESM set up, viz. IESM Kerala, IESM J&K, IESM Gujarat, IESM Punjab, IESM Nagaland, etc.. Each State shall be encouraged to throw up its leadership and be financially independent to cater to the requirements & needs of the respective State IESM.
(c) Adoption of Uniform Membership Fees. Whether one is a retired General or a retired Sepoy, after retirement, all are referred to Ex-Servicemen. That being so, it is felt that irrespective of ranks, there ought to be one uniform Membership Fees for Ex-Servicemen. And, considering the need to increase our membership strength in terms of lakhs, it is recommended that we have a uniform Membership Fee of just Rs.10 for one & all. In so far as Donations are concerned, it would be totally voluntary and left to individual Ex-Servicemen, as to the amount they wish to Donate. Donations can never be made compulsory and clubbed with Membership Fees.
(d) To integrate, encourage & motivate Veterans coming from the States of the North East to join the mainstream and set up IESM in their respective States. They would be requested, to organize celebration of Kargil Diwas, in respective States, to start with, on 26 July2010.
2. The Meet was chaired by Veteran Lt Gen SK Bahri and presided by Veterans Lt Gen NSI Narahari, Vice Admiral Barin Ghose, Maj Gen HK Kapoor, Rear Admiral BR Vasanth, Maj Gen MC Nanjappa, Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Air Cmde MK Chandrasekhar, Brig JS Narasimhan and Naik Naidu.
3. Dr VS Acharya, the Hon’ble Home Minister graced the Meet and was gracious to say:
(a) The Govt of Karnataka is committed to take care of the welfare & well-being of the Ex-Servicemen residing in Karnataka.
(b) He would call for a meeting of the Home Ministers of the four southern states to discuss & deliberate on points concerning Ex-Servicemen welfare and jointly take up the points with Union Govt.
(c) Take up the matter regarding issue of Corrigendum to PPO by the PCDA (Pension) with the Central Govt.
4. The Hon’ble Home Minister then had a cup of Tea with the Ex-Servicemen. The Tea was hosted by the Govt of Karnataka.
5. The Chairman and Presiding Officers of the Meet and a number of Veterans, viz. Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Vice Chairman IESM, Gp Capt VK Gandhi, Gen Secy IESM and all State, Dist & City Convenors present addressed the gathering and expressed their views.
6. Col Martin Khongmen from Meghalaya, Maj Biren Borgohain from Assam and Maj Prafulla Kumar Sinha from Agartala expressed their happiness at being invited for the Meet and pledged to spread IESM in their respective states in the North East.
7. Veteran Vice Admiral Barin Ghose, a member of the 4th and 5th Central Pay Commission and an authority on Military Pension, gave an illuminating talk on the evolution of Military Pension and the rules that ought to be governing the grant of Pension to the personnel of the Defence Services.
8. The Veterans assembled from the four Southern States and J & K, Assam, Meghalaya & Tripura, after due discussion & deliberation and based on consensus, resolved to:
(a) Adopt a Federal Structure, viz. IESM Kerala, IESM J&K, IESM Karnataka, IESM Nagaland, etc. having a unified Command Structure with existing IESM central at its helm. The MoA of respective State IESM would incorporate the clause that 20% of receipts on account of Membership fees would be sent to the IESM Central.
(b) Adopt a uniform Membership Fee of just Rs.10 for all Veterans, irrespective of ranks.
(c) Go all out to increase the membership strength of IESM in terms of lakhs.
9. Once the membership fee of Rs.10 was accepted, over 300 Veterans (incl 138 Veterans who were present at the Meet itself) were enrolled as Members.
10. Donation. It was also heartening to note that a sum of Rs. 55,000 was donated during the Meet by Veterans as per details given below:
(a) Lt Gen SK Bahri- Rs.5000
(b) Rear Admiral Anonymous- Rs. 12,500
(c) Col Madhu Sudan Kapoor- Rs.25,000
(d) JC-115730 Sub Shiva Shankaraiah- Rs. 5000
(e) Naik Naidu of The Madras Sappers- Rs.7,500
11. Respected Gen SK Bahri, who chaired the Meet, in his summing up appreciated the conduct of the Meet and urged one & all Convenors present to go all out for a Membership Drive to enroll One Lakh members by 31 Dec 2010; and was very gracious to announce a Donation of Rs. One Lakh as a reward and an incentive & motivation to achieve the target; to which all Veterans present stood up and pledged that they would achieve the target by 31 Dec 2010.
12. Gen Bahri greatly appreciated the kind gesture of the Govt of Karnataka in making available the Banquet Hall in the Vidhan Soudha for the Ex-Servicemen Meet; and also the visit by the Hon’ble Home Minister of Karnataka and his commitment to the cause of Ex-Servicemen Welfare.
Col SS Rajan
The Convenor of the South Zone Military Veterans Meet
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THE END
Tuesday, June 29, 2010
Monday, June 28, 2010
OROP by Chief Minister of HP
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
'i' have three good news for you –
1. Foundation stone of the strategic Rohtang Tunnel was laid today (28 Jun 10) by Smt Sonia Gandhi. The Raksha Mantri and the MoS Defence were also present. The tunnel will be ready in five years. It will immensely help in the development of Himachal – most important it will be big boost for defence of Ladakh.
2. In his speech, the Chief Minister very tactfully appreciated the contributions of Himachal Pradesh in the Defence of India, demanded removal of quota system for recruitment for the eligible Himachalis into the Defence Service.
Above all the CM forcefully demanded that ESM must be granted full OROP.
(I personally heard the speech on TV live).
3. The IESM South Zone meet was held at Bangalore on 27 Jun 30, which was a grand success.
The Home Minister of Karnataka was present at the meeting.
First report from Col SS Rajan on the meet is reproduced below.
A detailed report will follow soon.
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
Copy to - Shree Abhijit C Chandra, Chief of Bureau UNI, Bhopal.
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Jai Hind.
'i' have three good news for you –
1. Foundation stone of the strategic Rohtang Tunnel was laid today (28 Jun 10) by Smt Sonia Gandhi. The Raksha Mantri and the MoS Defence were also present. The tunnel will be ready in five years. It will immensely help in the development of Himachal – most important it will be big boost for defence of Ladakh.
2. In his speech, the Chief Minister very tactfully appreciated the contributions of Himachal Pradesh in the Defence of India, demanded removal of quota system for recruitment for the eligible Himachalis into the Defence Service.
Above all the CM forcefully demanded that ESM must be granted full OROP.
(I personally heard the speech on TV live).
3. The IESM South Zone meet was held at Bangalore on 27 Jun 30, which was a grand success.
The Home Minister of Karnataka was present at the meeting.
First report from Col SS Rajan on the meet is reproduced below.
A detailed report will follow soon.
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
Copy to - Shree Abhijit C Chandra, Chief of Bureau UNI, Bhopal.
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Wednesday, June 23, 2010
“Neglect of Armed Forces at Nation’s Peril” by Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Press Release
Dated: 22 June 2010
“Neglect of Armed Forces at Nation’s Peril”
Dear members of the Media,
1. One is at loss to know why the Defence Forces, the strongest pillar of our democracy are being neglected?. Why are they not been given their entitlements even after the courts have given judgments in their favour? Why there is total lack of understanding both by the political system as well as the bureaucracy of the most difficult task of keeping the country united being performed by the Defence Forces, demonstrating true patriotism, valour, bravery, facing all odds against external and internal threats. The Defence Forces belong to the country and they need to be treated fairly, justifiably and with due respect. Where the civil administration fails which happens more often, the Military is called to face the situation. It has been a record that the military under all circumstances has delivered and saved the country from serious damages. It is totally illogical and illegal to withdraw or amend AFSPA. The military is running out of patience. At first stage the Govt deploys the military to deal with insurgences / other internal threats and then expects them to face the bullets with their hands tied at the back. This is highly inhuman. Where are the proponents of Human rights? Is a soldier not human? And therefore, has no rights? Why thousands of soldiers have been used as cannon fodder due to reasons of the apathy of the bureaucracy-politicians nexuses for not providing them the wear -with-all, equipment, weapon systems, clothing etc. to appropriately deal with the internal and external threats. Military leadership by and large has been exemplary. It is the political leadership supported by bureaucracy which has failed the country. While the principal’s .knock on knuckles of the errant students grab the national headlines for days, the death of a soldiers lying down his life for the Security of the nation does not get even half a line in the media. He dies unsung and unrewarded.
2. The numerous letters written by our very senior military leaders and former chiefs high lighting the malaise setting in the Armed Forces due to gross and criminal neglect of the forces both in service and retired to the Govt functionaries ie PM, RM, Home Minister, Law Minister, UPA Chairperson have not been even acknowledged, leave alone taking any action to address the serious malaise. Even the media has not yet highlighted the serious drawbacks of military bashing.
3. We are making open to the Press a few letters Witten to Mrs Sonia Gandhi, Mr Moily, PM and RM. by Lt Gen SK Bahri. We humbly request the press, in the interest of the safety, security and integrity of the Nation, to publish these letters suitably and bring before the nation the true facts of the issues.
With kind regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
Dated: 22 June 2010
“Neglect of Armed Forces at Nation’s Peril”
Dear members of the Media,
1. One is at loss to know why the Defence Forces, the strongest pillar of our democracy are being neglected?. Why are they not been given their entitlements even after the courts have given judgments in their favour? Why there is total lack of understanding both by the political system as well as the bureaucracy of the most difficult task of keeping the country united being performed by the Defence Forces, demonstrating true patriotism, valour, bravery, facing all odds against external and internal threats. The Defence Forces belong to the country and they need to be treated fairly, justifiably and with due respect. Where the civil administration fails which happens more often, the Military is called to face the situation. It has been a record that the military under all circumstances has delivered and saved the country from serious damages. It is totally illogical and illegal to withdraw or amend AFSPA. The military is running out of patience. At first stage the Govt deploys the military to deal with insurgences / other internal threats and then expects them to face the bullets with their hands tied at the back. This is highly inhuman. Where are the proponents of Human rights? Is a soldier not human? And therefore, has no rights? Why thousands of soldiers have been used as cannon fodder due to reasons of the apathy of the bureaucracy-politicians nexuses for not providing them the wear -with-all, equipment, weapon systems, clothing etc. to appropriately deal with the internal and external threats. Military leadership by and large has been exemplary. It is the political leadership supported by bureaucracy which has failed the country. While the principal’s .knock on knuckles of the errant students grab the national headlines for days, the death of a soldiers lying down his life for the Security of the nation does not get even half a line in the media. He dies unsung and unrewarded.
2. The numerous letters written by our very senior military leaders and former chiefs high lighting the malaise setting in the Armed Forces due to gross and criminal neglect of the forces both in service and retired to the Govt functionaries ie PM, RM, Home Minister, Law Minister, UPA Chairperson have not been even acknowledged, leave alone taking any action to address the serious malaise. Even the media has not yet highlighted the serious drawbacks of military bashing.
3. We are making open to the Press a few letters Witten to Mrs Sonia Gandhi, Mr Moily, PM and RM. by Lt Gen SK Bahri. We humbly request the press, in the interest of the safety, security and integrity of the Nation, to publish these letters suitably and bring before the nation the true facts of the issues.
With kind regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
AN APPEAL TO STRENGTHEN THE MOVEMENT FOR OROP
AN APPEAL TO STRENGTHEN THE MOVEMENT FOR OROP
Dear Friends
1. More than a month has passed since the All Party Standing Committee on Defence through its Chariman Shri Satpaljee Maharaj congress M.P had tabled its report in the Parliament on 07 May 2010. The Committee had recommended the grant of OROP to Defence Personnel in holistic manner. The Govt has to decide on the recommendations of the Committee. There is an urgent need to bring to bear maximum public opinion in favour of our cause on the Govt through a sustained media campaign, organizing meetings, rallies, seminars, writing articles, depositing of medals, signing memorandum to the President in Blood to express our deep anguish.
2. Friends, in the next event being organized at Jantar-Mantar New Delhi shortly, we plan to deposit maximum medals and sign the Memorandum to the President in Blood. Our Chairman Gen Raj Kadyan has already written to the President to give us the date when she will be present to receive our medals and the Blood signed memorandum. This is the time when all ESM across the country must unite and endeavour to collect maximum medals and sign memorandum in blood for depositing with the President.
3. It is heartening to know that ESM of Punjab have resolved to collect one lac signatures in Blood. This was the solemn resolve of veterans on 11 Jun 2010 at Patiala after the “Antim Aradas” in the respectful memory of Late Col PIS Phoolka who had been spearheading the OROP Movement in Punjab. We appeal to all veterans across the country to collect maximum medals and sign memorandum in blood. Representatives at the level of Block, Tehsil, City, District, and State are requested to organize the collection. These can be sent at IESM Headquarters at 543 Sector 23 Gurgaon (Hr) Pin -122017 or brought by representatives at Jantar Mantar on the day of the event which will be announced shortly.
4. Maximum publicity be given to the forthcoming event. Leaflets in English, Hindi, Punjabi and Specimen Signatures of Blood Memorandum are enclosed for maximum circulation. Leaflets can be translated in other local languages and distributed.
5. Every one of the 2.4 million ESM wants OROP. So, let us join together to express our solidarity for the cause of Defence Forces to get our due Justice.
“Ham Ne To Jab Wadie Gurbat Mein Kadam Rakha Tha,
To Door Tak Madre Watan Ayee Thi Samjhane Ko” (S. Bhagat Singh)
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
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Dear Friends
1. More than a month has passed since the All Party Standing Committee on Defence through its Chariman Shri Satpaljee Maharaj congress M.P had tabled its report in the Parliament on 07 May 2010. The Committee had recommended the grant of OROP to Defence Personnel in holistic manner. The Govt has to decide on the recommendations of the Committee. There is an urgent need to bring to bear maximum public opinion in favour of our cause on the Govt through a sustained media campaign, organizing meetings, rallies, seminars, writing articles, depositing of medals, signing memorandum to the President in Blood to express our deep anguish.
2. Friends, in the next event being organized at Jantar-Mantar New Delhi shortly, we plan to deposit maximum medals and sign the Memorandum to the President in Blood. Our Chairman Gen Raj Kadyan has already written to the President to give us the date when she will be present to receive our medals and the Blood signed memorandum. This is the time when all ESM across the country must unite and endeavour to collect maximum medals and sign memorandum in blood for depositing with the President.
3. It is heartening to know that ESM of Punjab have resolved to collect one lac signatures in Blood. This was the solemn resolve of veterans on 11 Jun 2010 at Patiala after the “Antim Aradas” in the respectful memory of Late Col PIS Phoolka who had been spearheading the OROP Movement in Punjab. We appeal to all veterans across the country to collect maximum medals and sign memorandum in blood. Representatives at the level of Block, Tehsil, City, District, and State are requested to organize the collection. These can be sent at IESM Headquarters at 543 Sector 23 Gurgaon (Hr) Pin -122017 or brought by representatives at Jantar Mantar on the day of the event which will be announced shortly.
4. Maximum publicity be given to the forthcoming event. Leaflets in English, Hindi, Punjabi and Specimen Signatures of Blood Memorandum are enclosed for maximum circulation. Leaflets can be translated in other local languages and distributed.
5. Every one of the 2.4 million ESM wants OROP. So, let us join together to express our solidarity for the cause of Defence Forces to get our due Justice.
“Ham Ne To Jab Wadie Gurbat Mein Kadam Rakha Tha,
To Door Tak Madre Watan Ayee Thi Samjhane Ko” (S. Bhagat Singh)
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
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Sunday, June 13, 2010
Sitrep 13 Jun 2010
From: raj kadyan [mailto:rajkadyan@yahoo.com]
Sent: 13 June 2010 22:31
Subject: ESM SITREP 13 JUNE EVENING
Dear Colleagues,
We welcome the following new members from Aurangabad who have joined the IESM family.
Heartfulcompliments to the motivator Ravi Pathak, who continues to work relentlessly for the IESM cause.
S No Rank Name
1 SgtS S Gambhir
2 Hav Lokhande Subhash
3 Nk Nalawade K K
4 Hon Sub MajBan Sukhdev R
5 Hav Borude K D
6 Cpl Tamboli B S
7Hav Wakade Ram B
8Hav Borde Namdeo
9Nk Bilpe S K
10 Nk Meher Hiralal R
11Mrs Sangeeta W/o Sep Warpe C T
12Nk Jadhav Dadarao B
13 Mrs Warsha w/o Sep Shejwal Sahebrao
14 Hav Gaikwad Tej Rao
15 Sep Bambarle C S
16 Nk Munde Kastur G
17 Nk Mahajan Deoram Nago
18 Spr Jadhav Bajirao
19 WO Kawade M N
20 Nk Kewat Rajendra
21 Hav Mangate Laxmen Eknath
22 Nk Nikam Rajendra V
23 Nk Magare K S
24 JWO Kajale R K
25 Smt Kharat Kamalatai
26 Nk Ranisag Eknath Laxman
27 Hav Kasture W M
28 Cdr Save A M
The enhanced pension that was announced on 8 March 2010 has started arriving in the banks. A few banks are still to release the amount and hopefully would do so next month.
There have been a spate of calls from all over the country on the subject of enhanced pensions. The environment is convinced that this has been possible mainly through the efforts of the IESM. In fact there are many ESM from North India who want to organize thanks-giving rallies after the heat wave subsides.
Subedar Hari Singh from Hisar continues to pursue IESM interests without let. He visits villages and makes different ESM talk to me. This part of his campaign to convince them of the genuineness of IESM cause. Often he calls more than 20 times a day. Dedicated workers like him form the backbone of the Movement and I am sure there are many more.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Sent: 13 June 2010 22:31
Subject: ESM SITREP 13 JUNE EVENING
Dear Colleagues,
We welcome the following new members from Aurangabad who have joined the IESM family.
Heartfulcompliments to the motivator Ravi Pathak, who continues to work relentlessly for the IESM cause.
S No Rank Name
1 SgtS S Gambhir
2 Hav Lokhande Subhash
3 Nk Nalawade K K
4 Hon Sub MajBan Sukhdev R
5 Hav Borude K D
6 Cpl Tamboli B S
7Hav Wakade Ram B
8Hav Borde Namdeo
9Nk Bilpe S K
10 Nk Meher Hiralal R
11Mrs Sangeeta W/o Sep Warpe C T
12Nk Jadhav Dadarao B
13 Mrs Warsha w/o Sep Shejwal Sahebrao
14 Hav Gaikwad Tej Rao
15 Sep Bambarle C S
16 Nk Munde Kastur G
17 Nk Mahajan Deoram Nago
18 Spr Jadhav Bajirao
19 WO Kawade M N
20 Nk Kewat Rajendra
21 Hav Mangate Laxmen Eknath
22 Nk Nikam Rajendra V
23 Nk Magare K S
24 JWO Kajale R K
25 Smt Kharat Kamalatai
26 Nk Ranisag Eknath Laxman
27 Hav Kasture W M
28 Cdr Save A M
The enhanced pension that was announced on 8 March 2010 has started arriving in the banks. A few banks are still to release the amount and hopefully would do so next month.
There have been a spate of calls from all over the country on the subject of enhanced pensions. The environment is convinced that this has been possible mainly through the efforts of the IESM. In fact there are many ESM from North India who want to organize thanks-giving rallies after the heat wave subsides.
Subedar Hari Singh from Hisar continues to pursue IESM interests without let. He visits villages and makes different ESM talk to me. This part of his campaign to convince them of the genuineness of IESM cause. Often he calls more than 20 times a day. Dedicated workers like him form the backbone of the Movement and I am sure there are many more.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
Letter to the RM
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon – 122 001
Mobile-9811226676
IESM/OROP/RM 09 June 2010
I write to approach you in connection with non grant of enhanced pensionary benefits to the Service widows. As you are aware, enhanced pensionary benefits were announced by the government vide there letter dated 08 March 2010. This announcement covered personnel other than officers. Even though this is not ‘one rank one pension’, for which our efforts will continue, the increase in pension was a positive and welcome step. However, for some inexplicable reason the Service widows have been kept out of the ambit of this provision. This omission has come as a great surprise and shock. Ironically, we are not even in a position to explain the rationale for this discrimination during our interaction with the Service families.
On receipt of the government orders announcing the enhancement, I had written a letter to the Secretary Ex Serviceman Department pointing out the above anomaly. However, there has been no reply. This being an important issue affecting a large section of the pensioners’ population, I request your kind intervention in enlarging the ambit of the government orders to cover all categories of Defence pensioners.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Mr AK Antony
Hon’ble Minister of Defence
South Block
New Delhi -110 011
Chairman
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon – 122 001
Mobile-9811226676
IESM/OROP/RM 09 June 2010
I write to approach you in connection with non grant of enhanced pensionary benefits to the Service widows. As you are aware, enhanced pensionary benefits were announced by the government vide there letter dated 08 March 2010. This announcement covered personnel other than officers. Even though this is not ‘one rank one pension’, for which our efforts will continue, the increase in pension was a positive and welcome step. However, for some inexplicable reason the Service widows have been kept out of the ambit of this provision. This omission has come as a great surprise and shock. Ironically, we are not even in a position to explain the rationale for this discrimination during our interaction with the Service families.
On receipt of the government orders announcing the enhancement, I had written a letter to the Secretary Ex Serviceman Department pointing out the above anomaly. However, there has been no reply. This being an important issue affecting a large section of the pensioners’ population, I request your kind intervention in enlarging the ambit of the government orders to cover all categories of Defence pensioners.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Mr AK Antony
Hon’ble Minister of Defence
South Block
New Delhi -110 011
Letter to the President
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon – 122 001
Mobile-9811226676
IESM/Medals/2010 8 June 2010
Kindly refer to our letters No IESM/Medals/2010 dated 16th March, 2010 and 13153/RK/2010 dated 12th April, 2010 on the subject of depositing medals with the Supreme Commander of Armed Forces.
It is submitted that we still have not received a reply to our request to the Hon’ble Supreme Commander to receive medals of the ex-servicemen in person. The depositing of medals is symbolic of the disenchantment of the entire ex-servicemen population at the rejection at their long standing demand of `One Rank One Pension’ (OROP).
It is once again requested that the Supreme Commander find time to make it convenient to receive in person the delegation deputed to hand over the 5,000 medals that were brought back earlier from the Rashtrapati Bhawan.
Do allow me to mention that if your availability or any other response is still not intimated to us within a reasonable time, in deference to the wishes of the ex-servicemen community, our delegation carrying the medals will have no choice but to visit the Rashtrapati Bhawan on a pre-announced date. In case, your Excellency does not meet the delegation and does not receive the medals personally, the delegation will come back without handing over the medals. This will be repeated every month till we get OROP.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
(Raj Kadyan)
Smt. Pratibha Devisingh Patil
Hon’ble President of India &
Supreme Commander of Armed Forces
Rashtrapati Bhawan,
New Delhi – 110 004
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Chairman
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon – 122 001
Mobile-9811226676
IESM/Medals/2010 8 June 2010
Kindly refer to our letters No IESM/Medals/2010 dated 16th March, 2010 and 13153/RK/2010 dated 12th April, 2010 on the subject of depositing medals with the Supreme Commander of Armed Forces.
It is submitted that we still have not received a reply to our request to the Hon’ble Supreme Commander to receive medals of the ex-servicemen in person. The depositing of medals is symbolic of the disenchantment of the entire ex-servicemen population at the rejection at their long standing demand of `One Rank One Pension’ (OROP).
It is once again requested that the Supreme Commander find time to make it convenient to receive in person the delegation deputed to hand over the 5,000 medals that were brought back earlier from the Rashtrapati Bhawan.
Do allow me to mention that if your availability or any other response is still not intimated to us within a reasonable time, in deference to the wishes of the ex-servicemen community, our delegation carrying the medals will have no choice but to visit the Rashtrapati Bhawan on a pre-announced date. In case, your Excellency does not meet the delegation and does not receive the medals personally, the delegation will come back without handing over the medals. This will be repeated every month till we get OROP.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
(Raj Kadyan)
Smt. Pratibha Devisingh Patil
Hon’ble President of India &
Supreme Commander of Armed Forces
Rashtrapati Bhawan,
New Delhi – 110 004
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DON’T DENIGRATE THE ARMED FORCES by Maj Gen satbir singh
LETTER TO EDITOR
DON’T DENIGRATE THE ARMED FORCES
Dear Editor in Chief,
1. Aprop article “Uniform Decline” in HT dated 07 June 10 and another article “dubious reward J & K’s mercenaries in uniform” dated 07 June 2010.
2. While not questioning the freedom of the media, aforesaid two articles in your esteemed News paper are not only derogatory to the armed forces but are based on untruths and lack total credibility. This tantamounts to denigrating the armed forces, which over the years, time and again, have proved to the nation their patriotism, valour and steadfastness in all adverse conditions and calamities both internal and external -this inspite of such articles in the media and indifferent and unsympathetic approach of the Govt towards the Defence Forces.
3. In one of the above articles, resume of purported disciplinary cases has been given. I wish to remind you that as per norms of natural justice everyone is believed to be innocent till proven guilty. Defence Forces are known to strictly and ruthlessly punish
persons held guilty by various courts of inquiries. In all the cases brought out by you, none of the individuals mentioned, have yet been proved guilty.
4. As for as the other article where in the armed forces have been referred to as “mercenaries in uniform”, it reflects poorly on the mind set of the author and his scant regard to the ethos of the Defence Forces. This article is not only defamatory but shows lack of knowledge on the functioning of the Defence Forces. I sincerely wish your esteemed paper concentrates on the corruption cases pertaining to bureaucrats and politicians who are blatantly bleeding the nation. In contrast the Defence Forces have contributed to a large extent in maintaining the integrity of the country.
5. I implore upon you not to further denigrate the Armed Forces any further, for, whipping a running horse will provoke the horse to either slacken or give a kick which either way would be disastrous for the country.
(The author is a Former Senior Fellow and Security Analyst of Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis (IDSA), has been examiner PhD thesis in Defence & Security Studies, Ex Commandant Services Selection Centre & President SSB, besides being Instructor at four premier institutions of the Army. Presently he is a Vice Chairman of Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM), Tele No -09312404269, 0124-2461416). Email, satbirsm@yahoo.com
DON’T DENIGRATE THE ARMED FORCES
Dear Editor in Chief,
1. Aprop article “Uniform Decline” in HT dated 07 June 10 and another article “dubious reward J & K’s mercenaries in uniform” dated 07 June 2010.
2. While not questioning the freedom of the media, aforesaid two articles in your esteemed News paper are not only derogatory to the armed forces but are based on untruths and lack total credibility. This tantamounts to denigrating the armed forces, which over the years, time and again, have proved to the nation their patriotism, valour and steadfastness in all adverse conditions and calamities both internal and external -this inspite of such articles in the media and indifferent and unsympathetic approach of the Govt towards the Defence Forces.
3. In one of the above articles, resume of purported disciplinary cases has been given. I wish to remind you that as per norms of natural justice everyone is believed to be innocent till proven guilty. Defence Forces are known to strictly and ruthlessly punish
persons held guilty by various courts of inquiries. In all the cases brought out by you, none of the individuals mentioned, have yet been proved guilty.
4. As for as the other article where in the armed forces have been referred to as “mercenaries in uniform”, it reflects poorly on the mind set of the author and his scant regard to the ethos of the Defence Forces. This article is not only defamatory but shows lack of knowledge on the functioning of the Defence Forces. I sincerely wish your esteemed paper concentrates on the corruption cases pertaining to bureaucrats and politicians who are blatantly bleeding the nation. In contrast the Defence Forces have contributed to a large extent in maintaining the integrity of the country.
5. I implore upon you not to further denigrate the Armed Forces any further, for, whipping a running horse will provoke the horse to either slacken or give a kick which either way would be disastrous for the country.
(The author is a Former Senior Fellow and Security Analyst of Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis (IDSA), has been examiner PhD thesis in Defence & Security Studies, Ex Commandant Services Selection Centre & President SSB, besides being Instructor at four premier institutions of the Army. Presently he is a Vice Chairman of Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM), Tele No -09312404269, 0124-2461416). Email, satbirsm@yahoo.com
Tuesday, June 8, 2010
Welcome Air Chief Marshal H Mulgaonkar into the IESM
Dear Colleagues,
It is a matter of great honour for me to welcome Air Chief Marshal H Mulgaonkar into the IESM family. He is the first Air Chief to have joined and this makes the occasion really special. We hope to benefit from his guidance and advice in our pursuits. He has also been generous to have donated Rs 2,400.00.
I compliment Cdr Ravi Pathak and Colonel Krit Joshipura to have persuaded the Air Chief Marshal to join. A great achievement indeed.
Contact with ESM from different parts of the country continues. Sub Hari Singh from Hisar remains active. Happily he has also motivated many post 1.1.2006 retiree ESM also to join and actively support the IESM.
As would be known OROP has been recommended by the Parliamentary Committee on Defence in their report tabled in the Parliament on 7 May 2010. Building upon this we have also written to many Chief Ministers requesting them to use their influence with the Centre and prevail upon the latter to grant OROP. States with high ESM density may not find it easy to ignore the request.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
IESM UPDATES AND MEMBERSHIP REGISTRATION
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Kamboj Chander wrote:
Brigadier CS Kamboj, VSM., VETERAN,
Email ID – kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
“REPORT MY SIGNAL - BLOG” – http://reportmysignal.blogspot.com
IESM UPDATES AND MEMBERSHIP REGISTRATION – http://www.iesm.org/
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
Reference email below.
Col SS Rajan, Convener IESM South Zone, is a sapper – highly devoted to the cause of ESM and IESM.
My rough guess is that in last two years or so – he must have spent over Rs 2.00 lakh from his pocket – running up & down India for promoting IESM.
He spends thousands of rupees on telephone call bills per month, calling ESM all over the world.
A ‘no nonsense man’ – who would go to any extent to promote IESM goals.
Only problem is that at time he is rather harsh with the members of The Governing Body, who find it difficult to manage his moods – I suppose we all have our idiosyncrasies. Therefore, each member of the Governing Body and All India Core Group loves him immensely.
For information of those, who are not familiar with creation of IESM, Col SS Rajan is among the few veterans who worked (and working) tirelessly, at the cost of their family-time and health, for benefit of all ESM, irrespective of the Service and Rank of any ESM.
While many devoted ESM have worked for raising the IESM, IT IS COL SS RAJAN, who is responsible for calling the All India ESM Meet at Noida on 13 Aug 2008, when IESM was born.
The formal registration of IESM with registrar of Companies was achieved in December 2008 by hard work of Gen Kadyan, Gen Renjen and Gen Satbir.
Of course – they were helped by many other devoted ESM. Those of you who wish to read the MoU of the IESM, cand do so on the websites mentioned above in the header of this email.
There are a large number of persons, who in the recent past have started talking against IESM, like the ‘mendaks in barsat’.
It is time for all those “Doubting Toms” to pipe down – because IESM will achieve its goals definitely and put all those Doubting Toms to shame.
It is time for all ESM to understand that IESM is not just another ESM organisation, but a confederation of large number of those ESM organisations which do not toe the line of the Govt or politicians; those who wanted to toe the line of the Govt refused to join IESM.
While IESM does approach leading political personalities of various political parties – it is a ‘apolitical ESM organisation’ – have no doubts about it.
“Rajan” – keep it up. We all, “The Praja”, admire your tireless efforts for welfare of all ESM.
GOD be with you and your supporters at Bangalore and around for a grand successful meet of ESM on 27 Jun 10.
The email ID of Col SS Rajan is - colonelrajan44@gmail.com .
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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Brigadier CS Kamboj, VSM., VETERAN,
Email ID – kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
“REPORT MY SIGNAL - BLOG” – http://reportmysignal.blogspot.com
IESM UPDATES AND MEMBERSHIP REGISTRATION – http://www.iesm.org/
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
Reference email below.
Col SS Rajan, Convener IESM South Zone, is a sapper – highly devoted to the cause of ESM and IESM.
My rough guess is that in last two years or so – he must have spent over Rs 2.00 lakh from his pocket – running up & down India for promoting IESM.
He spends thousands of rupees on telephone call bills per month, calling ESM all over the world.
A ‘no nonsense man’ – who would go to any extent to promote IESM goals.
Only problem is that at time he is rather harsh with the members of The Governing Body, who find it difficult to manage his moods – I suppose we all have our idiosyncrasies. Therefore, each member of the Governing Body and All India Core Group loves him immensely.
For information of those, who are not familiar with creation of IESM, Col SS Rajan is among the few veterans who worked (and working) tirelessly, at the cost of their family-time and health, for benefit of all ESM, irrespective of the Service and Rank of any ESM.
While many devoted ESM have worked for raising the IESM, IT IS COL SS RAJAN, who is responsible for calling the All India ESM Meet at Noida on 13 Aug 2008, when IESM was born.
The formal registration of IESM with registrar of Companies was achieved in December 2008 by hard work of Gen Kadyan, Gen Renjen and Gen Satbir.
Of course – they were helped by many other devoted ESM. Those of you who wish to read the MoU of the IESM, cand do so on the websites mentioned above in the header of this email.
There are a large number of persons, who in the recent past have started talking against IESM, like the ‘mendaks in barsat’.
It is time for all those “Doubting Toms” to pipe down – because IESM will achieve its goals definitely and put all those Doubting Toms to shame.
It is time for all ESM to understand that IESM is not just another ESM organisation, but a confederation of large number of those ESM organisations which do not toe the line of the Govt or politicians; those who wanted to toe the line of the Govt refused to join IESM.
While IESM does approach leading political personalities of various political parties – it is a ‘apolitical ESM organisation’ – have no doubts about it.
“Rajan” – keep it up. We all, “The Praja”, admire your tireless efforts for welfare of all ESM.
GOD be with you and your supporters at Bangalore and around for a grand successful meet of ESM on 27 Jun 10.
The email ID of Col SS Rajan is - colonelrajan44@gmail.com .
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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Friday, June 4, 2010
Major's pension
Dear Commander Avtar Singh
1. We have discussed the case on a number of occasions. Since you had already filed the case in the court, I had suggested to you for filing additional plea to get the due Justice to our veteran majors and their equivalents in Navy & Air Force. My fear is once the court grants Rs 18205/- it may jeopardize the chances of increasing it to Rs 22800/-
2. I am very sure that Govt cannot keep the gap as large as Rs 11500/- in pension between a major and Lt Col where as the gap in their pay in the 5th CPC was only Rs 1000/- The Govt will have to correct this serious anomaly.
3. Therefore, to my mind, we must fight for to get Rs 22800/- for our Major.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
New IESM Members from Pune...
Dear Commander Pathak and Col Joshipura,
Well done. God Bless you God Speed.
Let IESM grow in length, breadth, depth vertically and horizontally to get due Justice to Military in all matters Military.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
Welcome Capt Sidhu...
Dear Brig Nawab,
We welcome Capt Channan Singh Sidhu to the IESM. We are sure he will motivate many other ESM to join in our struggle to get our due Justice,
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
We welcome Capt Channan Singh Sidhu to the IESM. We are sure he will motivate many other ESM to join in our struggle to get our due Justice,
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
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